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Author: Jason Poulter
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Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] For the Caching gods
there is now a paypal icon on the bottom of the azgeocaching site that
you can click to donate...

jason
azgeocaching.com


Jason Poulter wrote:
> ya we have a paypal account
>
> i should prob put a link on the web site front page... a couple people
> have actually donated a while back too...
>
>
>
>
> jason
> snaptek
> azgeocaching.com
>
>
> Bill Tomlinson wrote:
>
>> I'm in. Do you guys have a paypal account?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:
>> [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Regan
>> Smith
>> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 11:24 AM
>> To:
>> Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] For the Caching gods
>>
>>
>> I say we all donate a $ to Jason and Brian
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Groover" <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 11:15 AM
>> Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] For the Caching gods
>>
>>
>>
>>> Personally I am torn about registering. The impression I have gotten
>>> over the last year and a half of the people who run the
>>> geocaching.com web site is not very favourable (which I won't go into
>>> here), however I get a great deal or fun out of the site. I don't
>>> like giving money to people I don't think I like, but I see that
>>> running a web site for free is
>>
>>
>> hard/impossible.
>>
>>> So I've been stuck in this quandry ever since the "charter membership"
>>
>>
>> thing
>>
>>> appeared.
>>> I guess if they turned around and said "we are going to implement X,
>>> Y and
>>
>>
>> Z
>>
>>> to make it easier for handicap people to gague the real accessiblity
>>> of a cache" (of which I have posted ideas on the site in the past)
>>> then that would definately give me a big enough push to register. As
>>> for anything else, I don't know...
>>>
>>> Sigh....
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From:
>>> [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of
>>> Bill Tomlinson
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 10:56 AM
>>> To:
>>> Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] For the Caching gods
>>>
>>>
>>> Andy,
>>>
>>> It would take a bit of work, but I would think that you could re-log all
>>
>>
>> of
>>
>>> your old finds with your new name and then delete the old finds.
>>
>>
>> Geocaching
>>
>>> lets you specify the find date, so you would still have an accurate
>>
>>
>> history.
>>
>>> As for geocaching.com, I doubt that the issue is hoarding data or
>>
>>
>> bandwidth.
>>
>>> Both of those are already irrelevant because data is being grabbed by
>>> many crawlers already and that isn't a terribly efficient mechanism.
>>> I'm
>>
>>
>> willing
>>
>>> to bet that the issue is simply resources. Design and implementation
>>> of a system that all would be happy with could be a very difficult
>>> task. Look how long it's taken just to change the numbering scheme.
>>> And that's a
>>
>>
>> time
>>
>>> critical issue. I imagine of more people were willing to register we
>>
>>
>> would
>>
>>> see much better services in exchange. Personally, I don't much care
>>> if people choose register. We just need to be aware of the
>>> implications of those decisions. I chose to register because I'm
>>> interested in seeing new features like this.
>>>
>>> CacheLess
>>> Bill Tomlinson
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From:
>>> [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of
>>> Andrew Ayre
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 10:06 AM
>>> To:
>>> Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] For the Caching gods
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't think the problem is so much MO caches as the fact that
>>> geocaching.com appears IMO to want to horde the data and not share it
>>> with sites like azgeocaching.com by providing a backdoor entry into
>>> specific sections of the database. I cannot see how providing access
>>> to the AZ only caches would cause a problem for geocaching.com (in
>>> terms of rivalry worries, etc - I'm sure it would increase the
>>> bandwidth used).
>>>
>>> We recently changed our name from "Groover" to "Team Spike". This has
>>> completely messed up our team stats on the azgeocaching.com site, as
>>> it relies on reading cached pages. Well, archived caches never get their
>>
>>
>> pages
>>
>>> re-cached, therefore those caches will eternally be attributed to
>>
>>
>> "groover"
>>
>>> on azgeocaching.com, wheras the actual data in the geocaching.com
>>> database must be correct.
>>>
>>> As a result I've resorted to making a copy of all log entries on my own
>>
>>
>> web
>>
>>> site, so at least I have a copy of my own data that I can manipulate
>>> in my own database and know it is always correct and accurate.
>>> Unfortunately I don't have time to write code to generate graphs and
>>> other wonderful stuff that can be found on azgeocaching.com.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From:
>>> [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of
>>> Scott Nicol
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 9:33 AM
>>> To:
>>> Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] For the Caching gods
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ok. I don't usually fuss with much, but this one definetly irritates
>>> me. I am one of those 'numbers' cachers. I do enjoy looking at the
>>> stats and the numbers (for my own pleasure of course, not for
>>> competitive purposes). I
>>
>>
>> am
>>
>>> a bit annoyed that 9 of my in state cache finds now show up as out of
>>
>>
>> state.
>>
>>> This is the result of 8 AZ caches becoming 'members only' caches. These
>>
>>
>> are
>>
>>> caches that previously (when I found them), where not MO. What
>>> happens is that the AZgeocaching.com site is not a member, therefore
>>> it doesnt crawl the MO cache pages. (that is what I have heard
>>> anyways). At any rate, the
>>
>>
>> AZ
>>
>>> stats doesnt recognize Arizona MO caches and they show up in the out
>>> of state file. (anyone who knows me knows that I have 0 out of state
>>> finds
>>
>>
>> and
>>
>>> probably always will!).
>>>
>>> I personally beleive that if a cache is started out as a 'free'
>>> cache, it should remain that way for the life of the cache. If
>>> someone chooses to
>>
>>
>> make
>>
>>> their caches members only, they should do so with only the new caches
>>> that they place and not turn all their old caches into MO caches. I
>>> know Highpointer recently commented on this on the listserve a few
>>> days ago and that he was going to change his caches over to MO. I
>>> understand his views
>>
>>
>> on
>>
>>> the subject. However, Highpointer...I feel you should keep your old
>>> caches open to all and if you want members only, perhaps only turn
>>> your new ones into MO. The other problem I have with old caches
>>> changing into MO... I no longer can look back on those caches and
>>> read my logs (diary if you will)
>>
>>
>> of
>>
>>> my experiences at those caches (as I am not a member of geocaching.com;
>>
>>
>> that
>>
>>> is a whole nuther' thread, I am sure!). I hope Highpointer will
>>> reconsider changing his old caches back to non-MO.
>>>
>>> I have always enjoyed doing Highpointer's caches, he hides some good
>>> ones.
>>
>>
>> I
>>
>>> also very much appreciate his seeking my cache on Stewart Mountain
>>> and the comments he left there. I think me and Highpointer share many
>>> of the same views on geocaching and enjoy doing the same types of
>>> caches.
>>>
>>> I guess I will not be able to do anymore of Highpointer's caches as I am
>>
>>
>> not
>>
>>> a member of geocaching.com. However, I have no problem with his
>>> making his new caches MO, Members Only caches are available as an
>>> option to members
>>
>>
>> of
>>
>>> geocaching.com and that is an option that is available to him to use
>>> if he chooses to. I just wish he would reconsider and keep his older
>>> caches open to all.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>> Team Ropingthewind
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Brian Cluff <>
>>>> Reply-To:
>>>> To:
>>>> Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] For the Caching gods
>>>> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 08:12:21 -0700
>>>>
>>>> Yes, if caches are being moved to members only that were previously
>>>> available to anyone, they will show up as out of state.
>>>>
>>>> Brian Cluff
>>>> Team Snaptek
>>>>
>>>> Regan Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Would the new out of state finds be a result of the Member Only
>>>>> Caches?
>>>
>>>
>>>
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