there is now a paypal icon on the bottom of the azgeocaching site that you can click to donate... jason azgeocaching.com Jason Poulter wrote: > ya we have a paypal account > > i should prob put a link on the web site front page... a couple people > have actually donated a while back too... > > > donate@azgeocaching.com > > jason > snaptek > azgeocaching.com > > > Bill Tomlinson wrote: > >> I'm in. Do you guys have a paypal account? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com >> [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Regan >> Smith >> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 11:24 AM >> To: listserv@azgeocaching.com >> Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] For the Caching gods >> >> >> I say we all donate a $ to Jason and Brian >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Groover" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 11:15 AM >> Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] For the Caching gods >> >> >> >>> Personally I am torn about registering. The impression I have gotten >>> over the last year and a half of the people who run the >>> geocaching.com web site is not very favourable (which I won't go into >>> here), however I get a great deal or fun out of the site. I don't >>> like giving money to people I don't think I like, but I see that >>> running a web site for free is >> >> >> hard/impossible. >> >>> So I've been stuck in this quandry ever since the "charter membership" >> >> >> thing >> >>> appeared. >>> I guess if they turned around and said "we are going to implement X, >>> Y and >> >> >> Z >> >>> to make it easier for handicap people to gague the real accessiblity >>> of a cache" (of which I have posted ideas on the site in the past) >>> then that would definately give me a big enough push to register. As >>> for anything else, I don't know... >>> >>> Sigh.... >>> >>> Andy >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com >>> [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of >>> Bill Tomlinson >>> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 10:56 AM >>> To: listserv@azgeocaching.com >>> Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] For the Caching gods >>> >>> >>> Andy, >>> >>> It would take a bit of work, but I would think that you could re-log all >> >> >> of >> >>> your old finds with your new name and then delete the old finds. >> >> >> Geocaching >> >>> lets you specify the find date, so you would still have an accurate >> >> >> history. >> >>> As for geocaching.com, I doubt that the issue is hoarding data or >> >> >> bandwidth. >> >>> Both of those are already irrelevant because data is being grabbed by >>> many crawlers already and that isn't a terribly efficient mechanism. >>> I'm >> >> >> willing >> >>> to bet that the issue is simply resources. Design and implementation >>> of a system that all would be happy with could be a very difficult >>> task. Look how long it's taken just to change the numbering scheme. >>> And that's a >> >> >> time >> >>> critical issue. I imagine of more people were willing to register we >> >> >> would >> >>> see much better services in exchange. Personally, I don't much care >>> if people choose register. We just need to be aware of the >>> implications of those decisions. I chose to register because I'm >>> interested in seeing new features like this. >>> >>> CacheLess >>> Bill Tomlinson >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com >>> [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of >>> Andrew Ayre >>> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 10:06 AM >>> To: listserv@azgeocaching.com >>> Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] For the Caching gods >>> >>> >>> I don't think the problem is so much MO caches as the fact that >>> geocaching.com appears IMO to want to horde the data and not share it >>> with sites like azgeocaching.com by providing a backdoor entry into >>> specific sections of the database. I cannot see how providing access >>> to the AZ only caches would cause a problem for geocaching.com (in >>> terms of rivalry worries, etc - I'm sure it would increase the >>> bandwidth used). >>> >>> We recently changed our name from "Groover" to "Team Spike". This has >>> completely messed up our team stats on the azgeocaching.com site, as >>> it relies on reading cached pages. Well, archived caches never get their >> >> >> pages >> >>> re-cached, therefore those caches will eternally be attributed to >> >> >> "groover" >> >>> on azgeocaching.com, wheras the actual data in the geocaching.com >>> database must be correct. >>> >>> As a result I've resorted to making a copy of all log entries on my own >> >> >> web >> >>> site, so at least I have a copy of my own data that I can manipulate >>> in my own database and know it is always correct and accurate. >>> Unfortunately I don't have time to write code to generate graphs and >>> other wonderful stuff that can be found on azgeocaching.com. >>> >>> Andy >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com >>> [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of >>> Scott Nicol >>> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 9:33 AM >>> To: listserv@azgeocaching.com >>> Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] For the Caching gods >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Ok. I don't usually fuss with much, but this one definetly irritates >>> me. I am one of those 'numbers' cachers. I do enjoy looking at the >>> stats and the numbers (for my own pleasure of course, not for >>> competitive purposes). I >> >> >> am >> >>> a bit annoyed that 9 of my in state cache finds now show up as out of >> >> >> state. >> >>> This is the result of 8 AZ caches becoming 'members only' caches. These >> >> >> are >> >>> caches that previously (when I found them), where not MO. What >>> happens is that the AZgeocaching.com site is not a member, therefore >>> it doesnt crawl the MO cache pages. (that is what I have heard >>> anyways). At any rate, the >> >> >> AZ >> >>> stats doesnt recognize Arizona MO caches and they show up in the out >>> of state file. (anyone who knows me knows that I have 0 out of state >>> finds >> >> >> and >> >>> probably always will!). >>> >>> I personally beleive that if a cache is started out as a 'free' >>> cache, it should remain that way for the life of the cache. If >>> someone chooses to >> >> >> make >> >>> their caches members only, they should do so with only the new caches >>> that they place and not turn all their old caches into MO caches. I >>> know Highpointer recently commented on this on the listserve a few >>> days ago and that he was going to change his caches over to MO. I >>> understand his views >> >> >> on >> >>> the subject. However, Highpointer...I feel you should keep your old >>> caches open to all and if you want members only, perhaps only turn >>> your new ones into MO. The other problem I have with old caches >>> changing into MO... I no longer can look back on those caches and >>> read my logs (diary if you will) >> >> >> of >> >>> my experiences at those caches (as I am not a member of geocaching.com; >> >> >> that >> >>> is a whole nuther' thread, I am sure!). I hope Highpointer will >>> reconsider changing his old caches back to non-MO. >>> >>> I have always enjoyed doing Highpointer's caches, he hides some good >>> ones. >> >> >> I >> >>> also very much appreciate his seeking my cache on Stewart Mountain >>> and the comments he left there. I think me and Highpointer share many >>> of the same views on geocaching and enjoy doing the same types of >>> caches. >>> >>> I guess I will not be able to do anymore of Highpointer's caches as I am >> >> >> not >> >>> a member of geocaching.com. However, I have no problem with his >>> making his new caches MO, Members Only caches are available as an >>> option to members >> >> >> of >> >>> geocaching.com and that is an option that is available to him to use >>> if he chooses to. I just wish he would reconsider and keep his older >>> caches open to all. >>> >>> Scott >>> Team Ropingthewind >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> From: Brian Cluff >>>> Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com >>>> To: listserv@azgeocaching.com >>>> Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] For the Caching gods >>>> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 08:12:21 -0700 >>>> >>>> Yes, if caches are being moved to members only that were previously >>>> available to anyone, they will show up as out of state. >>>> >>>> Brian Cluff >>>> Team Snaptek >>>> >>>> Regan Smith wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Would the new out of state finds be a result of the Member Only >>>>> Caches? >>> >>> >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* >>> http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com >>> To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: >>> http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching >>> >>> Arizona's Geocaching Resource >>> http://www.azgeocaching.com >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com >>> To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: >>> http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching >>> >>> Arizona's Geocaching Resource >>> http://www.azgeocaching.com >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com >>> To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: >>> http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching >>> >>> Arizona's Geocaching Resource >>> http://www.azgeocaching.com >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com >>> To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: >>> http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching >>> >>> Arizona's Geocaching Resource >>> http://www.azgeocaching.com >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com >> To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: >> http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching >> >> Arizona's Geocaching Resource >> http://www.azgeocaching.com >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com >> To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: >> http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching >> >> Arizona's Geocaching Resource >> http://www.azgeocaching.com > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com > To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: > http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > Arizona's Geocaching Resource > http://www.azgeocaching.com