So true. we as cache owners have the ultimate responsibility of the proper maintenance of our caches. If we get lazy Geolitter is our fault and no one elses. When I had to relocate here last year it was a tough decision as to what to do with the caches I have in CO. Well several very concerned cachers stepped up to the ammo box and assisted me with the removal of some of the caches that would be more muggle proned, and we double checked on all of those that I have in the back country. So now there is still 50 caches up there that I still own, and with their help along with a couple of my sons the caches are still there and in good shape.
I got a chucke out of an EMail about one of my virtuals and what that finder had to say was quite interesting. Here are the answers to your virtual cache, "The Original Cache." Hopefully, you're still looking for these almost 6.5 years after you placed it originally. :) And yes I'm still watching them. I've been fortunate to have only a few fake logs over the years which were promptly deleted and a notice given to the questionable finder.
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I'm with ShadowAce on this one. There's way too many cache owners out there who are in a big hurry to place caches, yet don't maintain them when the glow wears off. We get to spend some time in the Eastern Sierras every summer, and many of the caches placed in the area are done so by cachers from So. California. The biggest problem with this is that the owners are 400 miles away, and may not be able to maintain their caches until the next time they have a "vacation". My feeling is that the administrators should be a little more selective in approving "vacation" caches by owners who live x number of miles away, or may have trouble maintaining their caches, because of the distance from home. This goes back to the lazy and not caring comment , by the way.
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From: ShadowAce<mailto:shadowace.az@gmail.com>
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Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] New Fake cache logger - FYI
Sorry, I have to disagree
If a cache owner can not maintain a cache then it should be removed in my opinion. I agree with groundspeak on this as only two things stop false logging.. 1 ) cache owner confirms and removes fake logs 2 ) the cache goes bubye
So before you point a finger at the Heavy Handed Groundspeak, maybe smack your fellow cachers for being lazy and not caring?
= Dirk / ShadowAce
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Richard Hansen <richard.hansen@dos2unix.net<mailto:richard.hansen@dos2unix.net>> wrote:
Typical heavyhandedness by groundspeak, looking for any excuse to get rid of virts.
=
Richard Hansen
On Mar 16, 2009, at 8:35 PM, AZcachemeister <azcachemeister@getnet.net<mailto:azcachemeister@getnet.net>> wrote:
I do see in a related thread in the Geocaching forums, that (per a reviewer and forum mod no less reliable than KEYSTONE) FAILURE to delete logs by known 'armchair loggers' can constitute a lack of maintenance by the cache owner, and grounds for archival.
C'mon cache owners, lets get this mess cleaned up!
ACM
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