Hear, hear.
While I have found my share of urban caches, I also have found a few
(much fewer) rural/wilderness caches. I have found enjoyment in both.
Some caches are urban, some wilderness. I have found both to be of
interest.
I have placed both types. I get thanks for both.
Just because you have time/desire/funds/vehicles/resources/etc. to go
out into the wilderness for your caches, does not mean the next cacher
does. When the opportunities present themselves, or plans are able to
make it a choice, I love to go get the more rural/remote cache. They are
of great interest to me. But, due to other my time/resource/priority
constraints, I am not able to go get them every weekend/day. Am I not to
be able to go get the local cache challenge? Yes, some of them are less
challenging than others. So what?
Please remember, as enjoyable as this sport/hobby/game is, it is not the
be all and end all of life. Family (wife, kids, parents etc.) do take a
higher priority. Work/church needs to be attended to. Caching is a fun
way to enhance life, not take it over.
Steven Stringham
StringCachers
AZPAUL wrote:
> Oh hell, here we go again. It seems that we just had this discussion
> last week. I don't know why some cachers think that the way they play
> the game is the only way to play it. If you don't like urban caches than
> don't do them, its that simple.
>
> Besides, who are we to say which caches have value or not. If a cache
> has given a cacher some fun and enjoyment finding it, then it has value.
>
> AZPAUL
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> PATRICK FINLEY wrote:
>
>> Very nicely put, Regan. There seems to be a whole generation of
>> cachers who think lite pole caches and park bench/playground caches
>> are the norm nowadays. I had the pleasure of sitting down with Jeff
>> (Team 360) JR (team AJ.JR ) and Dave Ulmer a few years back, and was a
>> little surprised with Daves take on the sport of geocaching that he
>> gave birth to. Strangely enough, I remember him saying that he had no
>> idea that geocaching would have become so big (with the help of
>> Jeremy) and that he really didn't keep up with the game a whole lot.
>> At that time he was travelling around the country in his motorhome and
>> must have driven by a whole plethora of caches everyday. Maybe it was
>> just my take on what he said, but I got the distinct feeling he wasn't
>> too receptive of the idea of many of the urban/city caches being
>> placed at that time. I wonder what his feelings are today? I hear
>> about cachers with physical limitations, and I'm sure there are quite
>> a few cachers out there with legitimate physical disabilities, but
>> there's also a bunch of "lazy" cachers out there who spend way too
>> much time sitting on their butt playing on the computer, by
>> choice. Some of those cachers have limitations like being way too fat
>> (bad knees, etc.) or just totally out of shape from sitting on their
>> rears. Hands-On Cachers have a cache near Montana Mountain that is
>> named "Get off the Couch, and Cache" (GC1JQY7) which says it all, as
>> far as I'm concerned. I think many urban park/parking lot/electrical
>> boxes/sprinkler head cachers use the excuse that these caches are
>> hidden for those who just can't do the hiking or off-road caches due
>> to physical limitations, wrong vehicle, or time constraints. That's
>> baloney. I feel empathy for those who really are handicapped, but that
>> group of cachers is a very small minority of the total caching crowd.
>> For those who have ventured out in the desert or mountains to seek a
>> hiking/off road cache, my hat's off to you. The feeling of actually
>> having to put forth some effort to get to one of these caches
>> is wonderful, and beats doing 25-50 urban caches, hands down. I still
>> do a few urban caches, if I'm in the mood, but enjoy the caches placed
>> in the boonies a whole lot more. AZcachemeister and AZgeckogirl, as
>> well as AJ.JR , TEF, 360, ShadowAce,Desert Rhino, Sprocket 1980,
>> Roping-the-Wind, Team A.I., Highpointer, Hands-On Cachers, Just Hike
>> and quite a few others place mostly caches that include some effort to
>> get to, a scenic location, and a sense of accomplishment. I know the
>> numbers thing is attractive to quite a few cachers, as we got caught
>> up in it in the "early" days, but do we need "power trails" such
>> as Redundant #1 thru #100? There seems to be a rash of cachers placing
>> caches .10 apart, with little, or no value, other than to pump up the
>> numbers. Just because you have more finds than somebody else doesn't
>> mean that you're a better cacher, or that folks respect you more.
>> Arizona Ranger Team has quite a few less finds than I Do, but
>> I respect their sense of adventure, and the type of caches they
>> pursue. Anyway, I hope I haven't stepped on too many toes, and want to
>> thank all of those cachers who place hides that have some true
>> value...............
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Regan Smith <mailto:evilfish@cox.net>
>> *To:* listserv@azgeocaching.com <mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 27, 2008 11:51 AM
>> *Subject:* [Az-Geocaching] Why I became a Premium Member
>>
>> Ya Know I really didn't want to pay for a Premium Membership, as
>> for the many years prior Geocaching was about the Geo taking the
>> GPS putting in coordinates and finding a cache outside..
>>
>> Now as if a bad plague I felt it very necessary for me to pay to
>> Ignore armchair caching, Have all the good stand alone caching
>> locations been taken that you have to add sitting infront of the
>> computer playing math and phone games before going out to enjoy
>> the outdoors. Has climate change done so much to ruin wanting to
>> spend time outside????
>>
>> When Dave Ulmer hid his cache he said come and find it, now how
>> many take the trip to see that spot??.. Yes times change but the
>> principle of here is a cache and go find it should not be perverted.
>>
>>
>> I was told by Alex months ago if you do not like that type of hide
>> why hide one like it? I so want to hide a more devious cache page
>> cache so all the minority cachers can bitch and moan at their lack
>> of understanding my logic but will not pervert the game any more.
>> but the lock and cable will remain....
>>
>> Just like giving the challenge to a few other cacher about
>> stepping up their game I will add now Keep it up.
>>
>>
>> Thanks ACM for the enlightenment of the Ignore button
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