Jeff,
Apparently you are a very uptight individual. The comment that was made
about changing the cache information was more sarcasm than a suggestion. If
you knew me (which you don't) I joke constantly about finding loopholes in
systems and exploiting them (I'm a computer geek, that's part of my job).
Does that mean I take action on it? No. It's the cache owner's
responsibility to follow the rules of Geocaching.com. Do the rules state
that a cache cannot be adult oriented? No. Do the rules say that a cache
cannot be modified to be an adult cache? No. Therefore, was I telling
anybody to break any rules? No. If Jeremy didn't want adult caches, he
would have put that in the rules. The people who approve the caches are
unpaid individuals, not Jeremy. One day you could get a person who would
allow the adult oriented cache (see Put that in Your Pipe cache by Chicks
With Trucks
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=32238 for
an adult oriented cache), another day you would not.
As far as not financially supporting Geocaching.com, who are you to tell us
that we need a charter membership to be supporting Geocaching.com? Team
LeapLab (which I am a part of) has purchased several Geocaching.com items
that support the site as well as over $400 in goods from OffRoute.com which
in turn supports Geocaching.com. I'm sure that many of the cachers in
Arizona have done the same. I bet that the cut Geocaching.com got for all
of our purchases was far more than the cost of a year's membership and we
plan to make many more purchases as we get more into Geocaching.
I do respect your opinion, but I felt that you should hear my side of the
story before attacking me personally.
Brian
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mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Jeff
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Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 5:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Caches - Different Strokes For Different
Folks
Brian,
I appreciate your reply, but you might want to go back and re-read my
original message.
First, I said "attitude of some of the Geocachers in this state", not all.
I have emailed and met several fellow cachers on the trails, and some of
them are great. Others not so much.
Second, please note that I was replying directly to Brian LaFrance, not
Mark, the original poster. It was Brian who suggested deceiving Jeremy by
changing the cache after posting it, and it pissed me off. I have no
problem with Adults Caches, but you, Brian, Mark, and I don't have the right
to override their final decision on the matter. I have no problem with
Mark's approach, and liked that he posted the cache info in this forum for
interested parties. In my original post I even said "if you disagree with
Geocaching.com's decision then discuss it, plead your case, etc.," so I
don't understand why you felt I said anything to the contrary. My argument
was simply that if you don't like Geocaching.com's policy the one thing you
should NOT do is deceive them about it.
I stand by my assertation that you should be ashamed of yourself for not
being a charter member if you have found more than 20 caches. According to
the Geocaching.com site you have found 205 caches and hidden 3, and you have
done absolutely nothing to support Geocaching.com for all the entertainment
you have had. Who do you think pays for their electricity? Their
computers? Internet connections? They need to pay their bills or they will
shut down. They are not a charity. This isn't about Member Caches. I am a
charter member and don't care for the idea, either. This is about people
using their service and not paying for it. So since people like you who
frequently use Geocaching.com won't carry your share, they are raising the
rates for the people who DO pay. So I get to pay for your entertainment.
Thanks a lot.
Jeff.
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