[Az-Geocaching] Only an altoids tin!!

Panda77 panda77 at wickenburg.net
Sun Feb 11 20:02:38 MST 2007


Ya I see a lot of places that say privet property ad i will be willing 
to bet the permission was not obtained. There is a lot of places we will 
not go to now days . because of the placing and or lack of safe parking.

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AZcachemeister wrote:

> Actually the original gist was about caches hidden on private 
> property, whether micro, large or in between.
> In Arizona, the tendency seems to be for the caches hidden in 
> questionable area to be micros.
> Many cachers seem to have the idea that areas with public access are 
> perfectly fine for caching, without permission from the property owner.
> I'm sure the lack of time or effort invested (at both ends!) is what 
> makes the parking-lot lamp-skirt micro so popular.
> The secondary issue is how to tactfully let the placers of these 
> caches know that these types of caches are really not so wonderful, 
> and that if permission was not sought and received, they are dangerous 
> to the seekers, and the activity in general.
>
> Tim Gunderson wrote:
>
>> I disagree. Number of finds doesn't necessarily indicate popularity. 
>> It probably indicates accessability and ease of finding. It is much 
>> easier to run out at 7 pm and nab a few micros hidden around town 
>> (especially in a large city) than to venture out of town and hike 
>> 0.25 miles or more to a cache. 
>>  
>> By the same token, it is much easier to place a few mindless micros 
>> which require little gear, little investment, and little thought, 
>> than hiding a box of swag off the beaten path.   I have found and 
>> hidden both types.
>>  
>> Remember that the original idea in this thread, as I interpret it, 
>> was about micros that are not thought out or hidden well. A well 
>> thought out and well hidden micro can be challenging. I do think you 
>> miss the point of "popular". If cachers were asked to list their top 
>> 5 caches I doubt if many urban micros would show up on the list.
>> tgundy
>>
>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>     From: noshdoo tsoh <mailto:geocaching at deepsouthwest.com>
>>     To: listserv at azgeocaching.com <mailto:listserv at azgeocaching.com>
>>     Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 10:33 PM
>>     Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Only an altoids tin!!
>>
>>     "Trust me, just because there are more micros than rural caches,
>>     doesn't mean they're more POPULAR."
>>
>>      
>>
>>     It's not the number of caches that makes them popular, but the
>>     number of finds on each cache. The fact that they are found at a
>>     rate exponentially higher than other caches does indicate
>>     popularity. Or am I missing the definition of 'popular'? Back it
>>     up with numbers?  ;-)
>>
>>      
>>
>>     "We're trying to encourage good micros and urban caches and
>>     discourage the placement of bad ones."
>>
>>      
>>
>>     A noble cause, indeed. Can I see you're scientific study on what
>>     is good and what is bad? You are the decider? Oh, that's right,
>>     trust you.
>>
>>      
>>
>>     Back to you're regularly scheduled rant...
>>
>>      
>>
>>      
>>
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