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Ya I see a lot of places that say privet property ad i will be willing
to bet the permission was not obtained. There is a lot of places we
will not go to now days . because of the placing and or lack of safe
parking.<br>
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Actually the original gist was about caches hidden on private property,
whether micro, large or in between. <br>
In Arizona, the tendency seems to be for the caches hidden in
questionable area to be micros.<br>
Many cachers seem to have the idea that areas with public access are
perfectly fine for caching, without permission from the property owner.<br>
I'm sure the lack of time or effort invested (at both ends!) is what
makes the parking-lot lamp-skirt micro so popular.<br>
The secondary issue is how to tactfully let the placers of these caches
know that these types of caches are really not so wonderful, and that
if permission was not sought and received, they are dangerous to the
seekers, and the activity in general.<br>
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Tim Gunderson wrote:
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I disagree. Number of finds
doesn't
necessarily indicate popularity. It probably indicates accessability
and ease of finding. It is much easier to run out at 7 pm and nab a few
micros hidden around town (especially in a large city) than to venture
out of town and hike 0.25 miles or more to a cache. </font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">By the same token, it is much
easier
to place a few mindless micros which require little gear, little
investment, and little thought, than hiding a box of swag off the
beaten path. I have found and hidden both types.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Remember that the original idea in
this thread, as I interpret it, was about micros that are not thought
out or hidden well. A well thought out and well hidden micro can be
challenging. I do think you miss the point of "popular". If cachers
were asked to list their top 5 caches I doubt if many urban micros
would show up on the list.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">tgundy</font></div>
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<a title="geocaching@deepsouthwest.com"
href="mailto:geocaching@deepsouthwest.com">noshdoo tsoh</a> </div>
<div
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Saturday, February 10, 2007 10:33 PM</div>
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Re: [Az-Geocaching] Only an altoids tin!!</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-style: italic; font-family: Arial;">“Trust
me, just because there are more micros than rural caches, doesn't mean
they're more POPULAR.”<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">It’s not the number of
caches that makes them popular, but the number of finds on each cache.
The fact that they are found at a rate exponentially higher than other
caches does indicate popularity. Or am I missing the definition of
‘popular’? Back it up with numbers? ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-style: italic; font-family: Arial;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-style: italic; font-family: Arial;">“We're
trying to encourage good micros and urban caches and discourage the
placement of bad ones.”<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">A noble cause, indeed.
Can I see you’re scientific study on what is good and what is bad? You
are the decider? Oh, that’s right, <b><i><span
style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">trust you</span></i></b>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Back to you’re regularly
scheduled rant…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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