[Az-Geocaching] REI experience

[ShadowAce]

Arizona State Trust land is open to geocaching as long as everyone involved.
Hider and Finders have a state trust land permit. I know. I have talked to
the office down here alot

BLM is ok, IF you ask permission and notify them of the location first.
Read this website:
http://www.blm.gov/az/geocache.htm

They have four simple rules that Must be followed to have a cache on BLM
property:
[image: game rules]

   - Identify proposed cache locations to the local BLM office before
   placing a cache
   - Do not place caches at archaeological sites
   - Obtain a BLM permit for any competitive events, contests for prizes,
   paid participation, or caches hosted by commercial business
   - Advise BLM if you observe any misuse or abuse of a cache location

Wilderness areas are a no-no.
Indian Lands area  no-no
Military property is a no-no..

 It is actually very simple:
Per groundspeak:

* To hide a new geocache in your area...*

Please make sure to obtain permission from the landowner or land manager and
read the guidelines for reporting a
cache<http://www.geocaching.com/about/guidelines.aspx> prior
to placing your geocache.

and

By submitting a cache listing, you assure us that you have adequate
permission to hide your cache in the selected location.

 So basically if you placed a cache and did not ask permission from the land
manager or notify someone you were placing it then you have already violated
Groundspeaks rules.

 As for this person at REI.. He might want to be very careful. If you
remember his name I would very much like to know what it is. I have a friend
in California who works for REI as a paid geocacher Yep.. He gets paid to
take people out and teach them caching.. Paid by REI...

 So if you know this individuals name are REI, I would love to pass it along
to my buddy in Cali and seem what the discussion becomes. If you go back
into REI and he is there, I really would like to know his name.

 Hope this helps.



On 7/5/06, Brian Casteel <bcasteel at uccinc.net> wrote:
>
> Find out which REI he works at.  :)  At the very least, unless something
> is done about it by the manager, it can become a business formally
> boycotted by cachers, who as I recall, are quite the outdoor enthusiast
> in a number of instances.
>
> Brian
> Team A.I.
>
>
> Guy Aldrich wrote:
> > I'll just say this,I wish I ran into this guy who throws out peoples
> caches !
> >
> > On 7/5/06, Andrew Ayre <andy at britishideas.com> wrote:
> >
> >> My understanding was/is forest service land is ok, as long as it isn't
> a
> >> wilderness area. Has that changed? There are tons of caches in FS
> managed
> >> land...
> >>
> >>
> >> Andy
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: az-geocaching-bounces at listserv.azgeocaching.com
> >> [mailto:az-geocaching-bounces at listserv.azgeocaching.com]On
> >> Behalf Of Crystal Hinkle
> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 9:38 PM
> >> To: az-geocaching at listserv.azgeocaching.com
> >> Subject: [Az-Geocaching] REI experience
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi everyone...I wanted to share this story with ya'all....
> >>
> >> I went to REI this past weekend for a problem with my GPS.  As the guy
> was
> >> helping me, he shared his viewpoint on geocaching.  He said that he
> goes out
> >> on public lands a lot and anytime he sees a cache there, he throws it
> away.
> >> My first thought was shock and alarm!  I went home and looked up the
> >> official rules, and he's right.  They are not supposed to be on forest
> >> service land, state land, etc.  However, somehow this message is not
> getting
> >> out to everyone who places caches.  I told him that it would be better
> if he
> >> contacted the owner and let them know that he was removing their cache
> >> because it didn't follow the guidelines and he blew me off and said
> that
> >> they know it's not supposed to be there.  Rather than have him
> sabbotage my
> >> GPS ;0) I just let that go and finished the troubleshooting and
> left.  It
> >> disturbed me that he would do such a thing, though.  I just thought I
> would
> >> bring it up to see if anyone has any thoughts on what people should do
> if
> >> they find a cache on public lands that shouldn't be there.  Thanks!
> >>
> >> Crystal
> >> CraftyCrystal
> >>
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