Arizona State Trust land is open to geocaching as long as everyone
involved. Hider and Finders have a state trust land permit. I know. I
have talked to the office down here alot<br>
<br>
BLM is ok, IF you ask permission and notify them of the location first. <br>
Read this website:<br>
<a href="http://www.blm.gov/az/geocache.htm">http://www.blm.gov/az/geocache.htm</a><br>
<br>
They have four simple rules that Must be followed to have a cache on BLM property:<br>
<img src="http://www.blm.gov/az/images/geocache_rules.jpg" alt="game rules" border="0" height="25" width="260">
<ul>
<li>Identify proposed cache locations to the local BLM office before placing a cache</li><li>Do not place caches at archaeological sites</li><li>Obtain a BLM permit for any competitive events, contests for prizes,
paid participation, or caches hosted by commercial business</li><li>Advise BLM if you observe any misuse or abuse of a cache location</li>
</ul>
Wilderness areas are a no-no.<br>
Indian Lands area no-no<br>
Military property is a no-no..<br>
<br>
It is actually very simple: <br>
Per groundspeak:<br>
<p style="font-style: italic;">
<font face="Verdana" size="2"><strong> To hide a new geocache in your area...</strong>
</font></p>
<p style="font-style: italic;"><font face="Verdana" size="2">Please make sure to obtain permission from the landowner or land manager and <a href="http://www.geocaching.com/about/guidelines.aspx">
read the guidelines for reporting a cache</a> <font size="1"></font>prior to placing your geocache.<br>
</font></p>
<p style="font-style: italic;"><font face="Verdana" size="2">and <br>
</font></p>
<p><span style="font-style: italic;">By submitting a cache listing, you assure us that you have adequate permission
to hide your cache in the selected location.</span><br>
</p>
<p> So basically if you placed a cache and did not ask permission
from the land manager or notify someone you were placing it then you
have already violated Groundspeaks rules.<br>
</p>
<p> As for this person at REI.. He might want to be very careful.
If you remember his name I would very much like to know what it is. I
have a friend in California who <span style="font-weight: bold;">works for REI as a paid geocacher</span> Yep.. He gets paid to take people out and teach them caching.. Paid by REI...<br>
</p>
<p> So if you know this individuals name are REI, I would love to
pass it along to my buddy in Cali and seem what the discussion becomes.
If you go back into REI and he is there, I really would like to know
his name.<br>
</p>
<p> Hope this helps.<br>
</p>
<br>
<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 7/5/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Brian Casteel</b> <<a href="mailto:bcasteel@uccinc.net">bcasteel@uccinc.net</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Find out which REI he works at. :) At the very least, unless something<br>is done about it by the manager, it can become a business formally<br>boycotted by cachers, who as I recall, are quite the outdoor enthusiast<br>
in a number of instances.<br><br>Brian<br>Team A.I.<br><br><br>Guy Aldrich wrote:<br>> I'll just say this,I wish I ran into this guy who throws out peoples caches !<br>><br>> On 7/5/06, Andrew Ayre <<a href="mailto:andy@britishideas.com">
andy@britishideas.com</a>> wrote:<br>><br>>> My understanding was/is forest service land is ok, as long as it isn't a<br>>> wilderness area. Has that changed? There are tons of caches in FS managed<br>>> land...
<br>>><br>>><br>>> Andy<br>>><br>>><br>>> -----Original Message-----<br>>> From: <a href="mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com">az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com
</a><br>>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com">az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com</a>]On<br>>> Behalf Of Crystal Hinkle<br>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 9:38 PM
<br>>> To: <a href="mailto:az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com">az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com</a><br>>> Subject: [Az-Geocaching] REI experience<br>>><br>>><br>>> Hi everyone...I wanted to share this story with ya'all....
<br>>><br>>> I went to REI this past weekend for a problem with my GPS. As the guy was<br>>> helping me, he shared his viewpoint on geocaching. He said that he goes out<br>>> on public lands a lot and anytime he sees a cache there, he throws it away.
<br>>> My first thought was shock and alarm! I went home and looked up the<br>>> official rules, and he's right. They are not supposed to be on forest<br>>> service land, state land, etc. However, somehow this message is not getting
<br>>> out to everyone who places caches. I told him that it would be better if he<br>>> contacted the owner and let them know that he was removing their cache<br>>> because it didn't follow the guidelines and he blew me off and said that
<br>>> they know it's not supposed to be there. Rather than have him sabbotage my<br>>> GPS ;0) I just let that go and finished the troubleshooting and left. It<br>>> disturbed me that he would do such a thing, though. I just thought I would
<br>>> bring it up to see if anyone has any thoughts on what people should do if<br>>> they find a cache on public lands that shouldn't be there. Thanks!<br>>><br>>> Crystal<br>>> CraftyCrystal
<br>>><br>>> ____________________________________________________________<br>>> Az-Geocaching mailing list <a href="mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</a><br>>> To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit:
<br>>> <a href="http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching">http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching</a><br>>><br>>> Arizona's Geocaching Resource<br>>>
<a href="http://www.azgeocaching.com">http://www.azgeocaching.com</a><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>> ____________________________________________________________<br>> Az-Geocaching mailing list
<a href="mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</a><br>> To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit:<br>> <a href="http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching">http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching
</a><br>><br>> Arizona's Geocaching Resource<br>> <a href="http://www.azgeocaching.com">http://www.azgeocaching.com</a><br>><br>><br>><br><br>____________________________________________________________<br>
Az-Geocaching mailing list <a href="mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</a><br>To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit:<br><a href="http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching">
http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching</a><br><br>Arizona's Geocaching Resource<br><a href="http://www.azgeocaching.com">http://www.azgeocaching.com</a><br></blockquote></div><br>