[Az-Geocaching] WARNING TB police

EvilFISH EvilFish at cox.net
Mon Apr 18 18:04:25 MST 2005


Warning do not touch a TB found in any cache

Warning if you place a TB in cache beware of the private emails from the 
cache police

Warning if you warn anyone publicly about this individual you are a bad 
person and will be publicly flogged

Warning letting one bad apple spoil the bunch ruins the crop




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Koch, Dan" <Dan.Koch at Eclipsys.com>
To: <listserv at azgeocaching.com>
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 5:46 PM
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] READ THIS CACHE SITE -


>> But for him to email other cachers PRIVATELY and tell them that
>> he thinks this or that is wrong... well that is just plain WRONG!!!!
>
> No...What is "just plain WRONG!!!!" is slamming someone in a public forum
> when the attacker is IN NO WAY related to the situation.
>
> In my opinion, there is not a single thing wrong with PRIVATELY contacting
> someone and telling them your thoughts about their actions.  Isn't it
> preferable to talk face-to-face rather than behind one another's backs?
>
> If people have a problem with what he has done TO THEM, then they should
> drop him a PRIVATE email letting him know that they feel HIS actions are
> inappropriate.  Uninvolved parties telling him to go away, attacking him 
> and
> copying his posts from totally different forums/sites are entirely 
> uncalled
> for and show their true character.
>
> I should be quiet now.  I wouldn't want to "be ostracized to the greatest
> extent possible by the community".
>
> LazyK - Dan
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: az-geocaching-bounces at listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-
>> geocaching-bounces at listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Roping The 
>> Wind
>> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 2:36 PM
>> To: listserv at azgeocaching.com
>> Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] READ THIS CACHE SITE -
>>
>> Dan, I think you are missing the point here that Shadowace and Cameron 
>> are
>> saying. You are correct, Highpointer is totally within reason to say what
>> he
>> wants as far as opinions are concerned. It is america after all. BUT...
>> what
>> you might not know is that Highpointer has PRIVATELY emailed other 
>> cachers
>> (on several occasions that I have been told about) and told them that he
>> didn't think how they handled a certain Travel bug was correct.
>>
>> One case in point: a good friend of mine, who is also a regular
>> geocacher.... placed a travel bug in a cache that was in east mesa. It 
>> was
>> a
>> somewhat urban cache, but in a large desert field. I would say this cache
>> was definitely not near where muggles would particularly stumble upon it
>> (anymore so than any other urban cache). It was probably 400' from the
>> nearest road in a fairly thick desert field. The next day he gets an 
>> email
>> from Highpointer (who is NOT the owner of this travel bug and is also NOT
>> the owner of this cache) saying that he shouldn't have placed a TB in 
>> that
>> cache as that cache is too urban and too likely to end up missing
>> (therefore
>> I guess placing the TB at risk of disappearing).
>>
>> Highpointer can state his opinions in his logs.. there is no harm done in
>> that (although sometimes this too can create problems as some people
>> aren't
>> particularly strong mentally and might take them as harmful words). But,
>> for
>> him to email other cachers PRIVATELY and tell them that he thinks this or
>> that is wrong... well that is just plain WRONG!!!!
>>
>> I wouldn't go as far as Brian did and tell Highpointer to take a hike or
>> anything... but Highpointer needs to just play his game how he wants to
>> play
>> it and keep it at that and not tell other people how to play it.
>>
>> Quoted in two ways:
>>
>> "I don't think that travel bugs should be placed in high traffic area
>> caches"
>>
>> "You should not place travel bugs in high traffic area caches"
>>
>> Those two sentences are two very similar quotes but yet very different
>> quotes. The first is simply stating an opinion, the second is a command.
>> Getting private emails like the second is not cool.
>>
>> Scott
>> Team Ropingthewind
>>
>>
>>
>> >From: "Koch, Dan" < >
>> >Reply-To: listserv at azgeocaching.com
>> >To: listserv at azgeocaching.com
>> >Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] READ THIS CACHE SITE -
>> >Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:27:37 -0400
>> >
>> >Right, and I'm just pointing out that he isn't the one slamming other
>> >people, telling people to get the heck out of here, etc.  Heck, he's
>> pretty
>> >much dropped out of sight as far as azgeocaching.com goes.
>>
>>
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