[Az-Geocaching] RE: forwarded forum post about micro/urban caches

[Trisha]

OMG EvilFish! You actually WORK???

:-) :-)

take care friend, it was so fun meeting you finally in Prescott!

Trisha




On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 07:19:57 -0700, "EvilFISH" wrote:





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let me add hiding a cache with the intent of it 
being found....
 
 
anyway 
 
back to work

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Bill Nolan 
  
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 6:53 
  AM
  Subject: [Az-Geocaching] RE: forwarded 
  forum post about micro/urban caches
  
  
  Ah yes, another 
  controversy….   This is such an interesting group.  There are 
  obviously many ways to enjoy this sport, but some participants feel
threatened 
  if you choose to enjoy it in some other way than their favorite.  We
have 
  the Urban vs Rural, Micro vs Traditional, Hiders vs Finders, and, of
course, 
  the Numbers People vs the No-Numbers People.  I’m sure many of you
can 
  think of others.  Then we wonder why war is so common.
   
  I have experienced 
  this firsthand.  My wife and I choose not to log caches, not because
we 
  think there is anything wrong with the numbers game, but simply
because we 
  don’t want to participate in that.  When I mentioned that on this
list, I 
  received several private emails (from people still active here) that
could 
  only be described as abusive and threatening.  Part of that was
because I 
  was interviewed by a reporter from Phoenix who knew me and knew I
was active 
  in the sport, and some here didn’t think I had the “numbers” to
speak out like 
  that.
   
  Then we made our 
  second mistake.  We placed a cache.  It wasn’t anything special, but 
  the emails it brought me were even worse than the first batch.  How
dare 
  I place a cache when my find numbers were so low?  It was obvious I 
  didn’t have the experience to actually place a cache.  Well, I’m a
fast 
  learner.  The other ammo cans I bought are still sitting, fully
stocked, 
  out in my storage shed.  I didn’t want to get any more nasty 
  emails.  Too bad.  We do a lot of 4-wheeling, and I have some good 
  places in mind.
   
  Geocaching is a great 
  sport, accessible to people of all ages and levels of physical
ability.  
  If it fails the test of time, it will be because of people who think
their way 
  is the right way – the ONLY right way.
   
  So, we will continue 
  to play, our way.  We don’t log our finds very often, and we don’t
do 
  urban caches.  Since we choose to live 8 miles outside a very small
town, 
  it shouldn’t come as a surprise that we avoid cities.  We also quit 
  hiding caches, so those of you here who jumped all over us for the
first one 
  (you know who you are) – well, I’ll give you a win on that 
  one.
   
  Bill
   
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com 
  [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of
GaleSent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 5:21 
  AM 
  
  Next time you place a cache......let's 
  get back to what made us want to go geocaching in the first 
  place."
  
   
  
  I had to respond to this one. 
  
   
  
  This article was written by someone who wants to 
  return to the days where only physically fit people have access to
caches. 
  Like it or not, other people have become geocachers. Physically
unfit people 
  have discovered an activity they can enjoy. I dont see why both
cache types 
  cant co-exist? Ive seen some nice rural caches, as well as junky
ones. 
  Same with urban caches
  
   
  
  "Again, lately I have really been 
  enjoying the occasional cache I have found as I have been really
only 
  doing wilderness hiking caches around Sedona. They are my kind of
fun." 
  
  
   
  
  Thats great Scott, but it is not my idea of fun. Feel 
  free to play your way. I cant do those kinds of caches. Ever since 
  falling down stairs 12 yrs ago, I have not had the mobility I used
to have. I 
  would like to continue to play the game my way without feeling like
an 
  unwelcome outsider.