[Az-Geocaching] RE: forwarded forum post about micro/urban caches
EvilFISH
listserv@azgeocaching.com
Wed, 4 Aug 2004 17:03:22 -0700
only to pay for the medical bills
----- Original Message -----
From: "Trisha" <trisha@brasher.com>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] RE: forwarded forum post about micro/urban
caches
> OMG EvilFish! You actually WORK???
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> :-) :-)
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> take care friend, it was so fun meeting you finally in Prescott!
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> Trisha
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> On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 07:19:57 -0700, "EvilFISH" wrote:
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> let me add hiding a cache with the intent of it
> being found....
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> anyway
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> back to work
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> Bill Nolan
>
> To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 6:53
> AM
> Subject: [Az-Geocaching] RE: forwarded
> forum post about micro/urban caches
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> Ah yes, another
> controversy.. This is such an interesting group. There are
> obviously many ways to enjoy this sport, but some participants feel
> threatened
> if you choose to enjoy it in some other way than their favorite. We
> have
> the Urban vs Rural, Micro vs Traditional, Hiders vs Finders, and, of
> course,
> the Numbers People vs the No-Numbers People. I'm sure many of you
> can
> think of others. Then we wonder why war is so common.
>
> I have experienced
> this firsthand. My wife and I choose not to log caches, not because
> we
> think there is anything wrong with the numbers game, but simply
> because we
> don't want to participate in that. When I mentioned that on this
> list, I
> received several private emails (from people still active here) that
> could
> only be described as abusive and threatening. Part of that was
> because I
> was interviewed by a reporter from Phoenix who knew me and knew I
> was active
> in the sport, and some here didn't think I had the "numbers" to
> speak out like
> that.
>
> Then we made our
> second mistake. We placed a cache. It wasn't anything special, but
> the emails it brought me were even worse than the first batch. How
> dare
> I place a cache when my find numbers were so low? It was obvious I
> didn't have the experience to actually place a cache. Well, I'm a
> fast
> learner. The other ammo cans I bought are still sitting, fully
> stocked,
> out in my storage shed. I didn't want to get any more nasty
> emails. Too bad. We do a lot of 4-wheeling, and I have some good
> places in mind.
>
> Geocaching is a great
> sport, accessible to people of all ages and levels of physical
> ability.
> If it fails the test of time, it will be because of people who think
> their way
> is the right way - the ONLY right way.
>
> So, we will continue
> to play, our way. We don't log our finds very often, and we don't
> do
> urban caches. Since we choose to live 8 miles outside a very small
> town,
> it shouldn't come as a surprise that we avoid cities. We also quit
> hiding caches, so those of you here who jumped all over us for the
> first one
> (you know who you are) - well, I'll give you a win on that
> one.
>
> Bill
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> From:
> az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of
> GaleSent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 5:21
> AM
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> Next time you place a cache......let's
> get back to what made us want to go geocaching in the first
> place."
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>
>
> I had to respond to this one.
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> This article was written by someone who wants to
> return to the days where only physically fit people have access to
> caches.
> Like it or not, other people have become geocachers. Physically
> unfit people
> have discovered an activity they can enjoy. I dont see why both
> cache types
> cant co-exist? Ive seen some nice rural caches, as well as junky
> ones.
> Same with urban caches
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>
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> "Again, lately I have really been
> enjoying the occasional cache I have found as I have been really
> only
> doing wilderness hiking caches around Sedona. They are my kind of
> fun."
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>
> Thats great Scott, but it is not my idea of fun. Feel
> free to play your way. I cant do those kinds of caches. Ever since
> falling down stairs 12 yrs ago, I have not had the mobility I used
> to have. I
> would like to continue to play the game my way without feeling like
> an
> unwelcome outsider.
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