[Az-Geocaching] Re: Been There, Done That
RAND HARDIN
listserv@azgeocaching.com
Sat, 3 Apr 2004 04:52:23 -0700
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I have a solution!
It's obvious that not all cachers geocache for the same reason. There ar=
e those who do it just for "fun"! And there are those who think of it as=
a "hobby," or a "sport." But there are a number of cachers who "play th=
e numbers game" - and when you mix all of the above together when it come=
s to the number game, you are open to chaos.
Maybe it's time for seperate stats to be kept for those who enjoy going f=
or the records.
Maybe we're getting to a point where records need to be verified! (Much =
like Ripley's Believe It Or Not!) If it's not verified, it doesn't count=
! To get on the stat page for most caches found in 24 hrs, we could requ=
ire the team or individual to register their intent first, then have obse=
rvers follow along to verify the hunt! For records such as "most caches =
found in a month," or "year," or the top spot for "most caches found in A=
rizona," we could have the team or individual sign a form stating that th=
e individual or at least one member of the team was indeed present at eve=
ry find.
We can even take the stats further! We can seperate every record into ca=
tegories of mosts for "teams" and "mosts" for individuals!
Rand =20
(RandMan)
Okay - you can stop laughing now. ;) :D
=20
----- Original Message -----
From: RopingThe Wind
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 10:34 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Been There, Done That
Scott Sparks (Sprocket) wrote:
A team that splits up to find caches is fine, as long as you're not tryin=
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to break a record in the process.
Scott (Team Roping The Wind) wrote:
Sprocket =20
In my personal opinion, a team that splits up is NEVER fine. Not for a =20
record breaking day, not for any day. If you are a top ranked cacher and =20
working toward reaching the #1 spot, I sure hope, Sprocket, that you =20
yourself was at each and every cache you logged as a find. I know I was a=
nd =20
I got to #1 very legitimately. I hope that the next team that takes me ou=
t =20
of the #1 spot will play it as fairly as I did. I know the stats are a bi=
g =20
screwed up right now, but Sprocket, you are quite possibly in the #1 spot=
=20
right now. If not, you are very close and will do so any day now. I sure =20
hope you are playing it as straight up as I am. I have seen your logs all=
=20
over the place and we have met up at caches many times. So, I am confiden=
t =20
you play the game fairly. But, why would you suggest in your post above t=
hat =20
you think it is ok to split up your team to find caches!? Have you done t=
his =20
in the past!?
Anyone can play this game any way they like... there really are no hard s=
et =20
rules. However, there is certain etiquette and rules that the top teams t=
end =20
to maintain... in honor of good sportsmanship and respect for our fellow =20
'competitors' (as we most certainly are sometimes!). Splitting a team up=
to =20
find caches in certainly NOT one of them. I know myself, I have been at =20
EVERY single one of the 1,210 caches I have found and only I wrote my log=
in =20
the logbook and then online. I have other teammates that go with me on =20
occasion, but I am ALWAYS at every cache I find. I will not allow another=
=20
teammate to take another GPS and split off to get other caches. If they w=
ant =20
to do this.. they log those finds as another team. AZSaluki.... Jim is =20
always at all of their caches they find. Kristen is at many of them, but =
Jim =20
is at all of them. I believe that Wyle E has also stuck by this 'rule'.
Just my personal opinion. But, anything less is cheating in my book. In t=
his =20
game.. I guess you are just cheating yourself if that is how you have bee=
n =20
doing it. Of course, you would also be cheating your fellow cachers who h=
ave =20
worked very hard and legitimately to get to the top as well.
Scott
Team Ropingthewind
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<HTML><BODY STYLE=3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV> <DIV><STRONG>=
<U>I have a solution!</U></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG></STRONG> </DI=
V> <DIV>It's obvious that not all cachers geocache for the same reason.&n=
bsp; There are those who do it just for "fun"! And there =
are those who think of it as a "hobby," or a "sport." But there are=
a number of cachers who "play the numbers game" - and when you mix all o=
f the above together when it comes to the number game, you are =
open to chaos.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Maybe it's time for seperate =
stats to be kept for those who enjoy going for the records.</DIV> <DIV>&n=
bsp;</DIV> <DIV>Maybe we're getting to a point where records need to be v=
erified! (Much like <EM>Ripley's Believe It Or Not!)</EM> <U>=
If it's not verified, it doesn't count!</U> To get on the stat page=
for most caches found in 24 hrs, we could require the team or individual=
to register their intent first, then have observers follo=
w along to verify the hunt! For records such as "most cac=
hes found in a month," or "year," or the top spot for "most cac=
hes found in Arizona," we could have the team or individual sign a&n=
bsp;form stating that the individual or at least one member of the team w=
as indeed present at every find.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>We can even=
take the stats further! We can seperate every record into categori=
es of mosts for "teams" and "mosts" for individuals!</DIV> <DIV>&nbs=
p;</DIV> <DIV>Rand </DIV> <DIV>(RandMan)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DI=
V><FONT size=3D1></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D1>Okay - you can s=
top laughing now. ;) :D</FONT><BR><STRONG> </STRONG></DI=
V></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDI=
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GHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><STRONG>----- Original Message=
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; COLOR: black"><STRONG>From: RopingThe Wind</STRONG></DIV> <DIV style=3D=
"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 02, 2004 10:34 PM</DIV> <DI=
V style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> listserv@azgeocaching.com</DIV> <=
DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Be=
en There, Done That</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <P><STRONG>Scott Sparks (Spro=
cket) wrote:<BR></STRONG><BR><U>A team that splits up to find caches=
is fine</U>, as long as you're not trying <BR>to break a record in the p=
rocess.</P> <P><STRONG>Scott (Team Roping The Wind) wrote:</STRONG></P> <=
P>Sprocket </P> <P><U>In my personal opinion, a team that splits up=
is NEVER fine</U>. Not for a <BR>record breaking day, not for any day. I=
f you are a top ranked cacher and <BR>working toward reaching the #1=
spot, I sure hope, Sprocket, that you <BR>yourself was at each and every=
cache you logged as a find. I know I was and <BR>I got to #1 very legiti=
mately. I hope that the next team that takes me out <BR>of the #1 spot wi=
ll play it as fairly as I did. I know the stats are a big <BR>screwed up =
right now, but Sprocket, you are quite possibly in the #1 spot <BR>right =
now. If not, you are very close and will do so any day now. I sure <BR>ho=
pe you are playing it as straight up as I am. I have seen your logs all <=
BR>over the place and we have met up at caches many times. So, I am confi=
dent <BR>you play the game fairly. But, why would you suggest in your pos=
t above that <BR>you think it is ok to split up your team to find caches!=
? Have you done this <BR>in the past!?<BR><BR>Anyone can play this game a=
ny way they like... there really are no hard set <BR>rules. However, ther=
e is certain etiquette and rules that the top teams tend <BR>to maintain.=
. in honor of good sportsmanship and respect for our fellow <BR>'competi=
tors' (as we most certainly are sometimes!). Splitting a team up to=
<BR>find caches in certainly NOT one of them. I know myself, I have been=
at <BR>EVERY single one of the 1,210 caches I have found and only I wrot=
e my log in <BR>the logbook and then online. I have other teammates that =
go with me on <BR>occasion, but I am ALWAYS at every cache I find. I will=
not allow another <BR>teammate to take another GPS and split off to get =
other caches. If they want <BR>to do this.. they log those finds as anoth=
er team. AZSaluki.... Jim is <BR>always at all of their caches they find.=
Kristen is at many of them, but Jim <BR>is at all of them. I believe tha=
t Wyle E has also stuck by this 'rule'.<BR><BR>Just my personal opinion. =
But, anything less is cheating in my book. In this <BR>game.. I guess you=
are just cheating yourself if that is how you have been <BR>doing it. Of=
course, you would also be cheating your fellow cachers who have <BR>work=
ed very hard and legitimately to get to the top as well.<BR><BR>Scott<BR>=
Team Ropingthewind<BR><BR></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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