[Az-Geocaching] Ramblin' RTW
RAND HARDIN
listserv@azgeocaching.com
Mon, 5 May 2003 05:08:42 -0700
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I agree with Scott. I have no problem if a cache owner wants to have a m=
embers only cache (as long as it starts out as a members only cache). I =
think it is inconsiderate to fellow cachers if a cache owner changes a no=
n-members only cache to a members only cache after it had been found by n=
on-members. I feel I have an investment in every cache I find and to hav=
e my investment taken from me is irritating. I too enjoy following the A=
rizona stats and do not seek out-of-state caches. I too am like Scott wh=
en it comes to my log entries. Sometimes I enjoy writing lengthy notes a=
bout my adventure. I am always going back and re-reading my (and others)=
comments. We talk about how irritating it is to have our caches stolen =
or plundered . . . it is equally irritating to have our "finds" (our inve=
stments) stolen from us and our access denied to a cache that we have pre=
viously found because we choose not to become a Premium Member.
Rand (RandMan) =20
----- Original Message -----
From: RopingThe Wind
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 9:30 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Ramblin' RTW
The other thing that is really irritating me is the fact that I have lost=
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several caches to my stats because they became members only after I had =20
already found it. I beleive a cache should not be changed over to a MO ca=
che =20
after it was originally available to all. It screws up my numbers (yes, I=
am =20
into the numbers). I only cache in Arizona, so there should be no 'finds'=
in =20
my out of state column. I understand this issue is tough to resolve.. but=
, I =20
dont fault azgeocaching.com for it... I understand their situation with i=
t =20
and why they cant correct this problem. There have been a few other cache=
rs =20
who have mentioned this as well. So, for all those cache owners who choos=
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to change their caches over midlife to a MO cache.. help Brian and Jason =
out =20
so they dont have to deal with that issue. Leave your old caches the way =20
they were and make your new caches MO if you want to, then I will just no=
t =20
go seek out those new caches. It will also keep the stats orderly and =20
simple.
Also.. and most importantly.. the thing that irritates me most about this=
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situation is that I can no longer view my log (my diary if you will) on a=
=20
given cache that I found that has since become members only. Most people =
who =20
know me sometimes joke about my lengthy logs on caches. Well, those logs =
are =20
basically my diary of my experiences at that cache. That 'experience' is =
now =20
lost forever as I cant go back and read about it anymore. I like clicking=
on =20
the old caches that I have visited a year or two ago and reading my log a=
nd =20
reading some of the later logs on that cache. Now I cannot do that as the=
=20
owner has made it a members only cache. I now would have to pay for that =20
privelege if I want to view them. =20
Scott
Team RTW
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<HTML><BODY STYLE=3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>I agree with S=
cott. I have no problem if a cache owner wants to have a membe=
rs only cache (as long as it starts out as a members only cache).&nb=
sp; I think it is inconsiderate to fellow cachers if a cache owner change=
s a non-members only cache to a members only cache after it had been=
found by non-members. I feel I have an investment in every ca=
che I find and to have my investment taken from me is irritating. I=
too enjoy following the <U>Arizona</U> stats and do not seek o=
ut-of-state caches. I too am like Scott when it comes to my lo=
g entries. Sometimes I enjoy writing lengthy notes about my adventu=
re. I am always going back and re-reading my (and others)=
comments. We talk about how irritating it is to have our cach=
es stolen or plundered . . . it is equally irritating to have our "finds"=
(our investments) stolen from us and our access denied to a cache t=
hat we have previously found because we choose not to become a =
Premium Member.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Rand (RandMan) </=
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<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B>Fr=
om:</B> RopingThe Wind</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B>=
Sunday, May 04, 2003 9:30 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To=
:</B> listserv@azgeocaching.com</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>=
Subject:</B> [Az-Geocaching] Ramblin' RTW</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <P><U>T=
he other thing that is really irritating me is the fact that I have lost =
<BR>several caches to my stats because they became members only after I h=
ad <BR>already found it.</U> <U>I beleive a cache should not be changed o=
ver to a MO cache <BR>after it was originally available to all.</U> It sc=
rews up my numbers (yes, I am <BR>into the numbers). I only cache in Ariz=
ona, so there should be no 'finds' in <BR>my out of state column. I under=
stand this issue is tough to resolve.. but, I <BR>dont fault azgeocaching=
.com for it... I understand their situation with it <BR>and why they cant=
correct this problem. There have been a few other cachers <BR>who have m=
entioned this as well. So, for all those cache owners who choose <BR>to c=
hange their caches over midlife to a MO cache.. help Brian and Jason out =
<BR>so they dont have to deal with that issue. Leave your old caches the =
way <BR>they were and make your new caches MO if you want to, then I will=
just not <BR>go seek out those new caches. It will also keep the stats o=
rderly and <BR>simple.<BR><BR>Also.. and most importantly.. <U>the thing =
that irritates me most about this <BR>situation is that I can no longer v=
iew my log (my diary if you will) on a <BR>given cache that I found that =
has since become members only.</U> Most people who <BR>know me sometimes =
joke about my lengthy logs on caches. Well, those logs are <BR>basically =
my diary of my experiences at that cache. That 'experience' is now <BR>lo=
st forever as I cant go back and read about it anymore. I like clicking o=
n <BR>the old caches that I have visited a year or two ago and reading my=
log and <BR>reading some of the later logs on that cache. Now I cannot d=
o that as the <BR>owner has made it a members only cache. I now would hav=
e to pay for that <BR>privelege if I want to view them. <BR><BR><BR>Scott=
<BR>Team RTW<BR><BR><BR></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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