[Az-Geocaching] Cache 71199 description

Darin & Dani listserv@azgeocaching.com
Tue, 3 Jun 2003 19:10:36 -0700


We would be interested in putting a cache near here.  I printed out the
description.  We have plenty of cache stuff, just need to get a container.
Let us know, Mike, if you want us to place one up there.

Darin.

Team DDJT + Sassie the Wonder dog.
Prescott Valley.
Fresh from the bottom of the Canyon.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Trisha" <trisha@brasher.com>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Cache 71199 description


> Thank you Mike for posting the text of your un-approved (but very
> interesting) cache!
> I vote for Lincoln or DDJT (or....?) to put a physical cache with a
> weather theme at this site (I would but it's a bit too much hiking for
> me....besides, I have the cache at the top still active)
> I think it would be fun if whoever put a physical cache there would
> include a print out of your virtual cache description in the cache as
> a memorial to all the unapproved but deserving caches in the world.....
>
> Trisha "Lightning"
> Prescott
>
>
> On Fri, 30 May 2003 17:12:08, Mike Schwarz wrote:
>
> >
> > Well, looks like the powers that be at geocaching.com set it up
> > so nobody but me can see it, even if you ARE logged in.  Drats.
> >
> > Here's the text of the description I submitted, just to satisfy
> > any curiousity anyone may have about my ill-fated virtual cache.
> > Or if anyone wants to try to locate the thermometer, even though you
> > won't increase your numbers for anything by doing so.  This does
> > require a 2 mile round trip hike, with 500 feet of elevation gain.
> > Unless you're doing more of the Groom Creek trail.  Again, if
> > anyone does locate it, let me know via an email.  And if someone
> > who lives in the Prescott area wishes to place a physical cache
> > near it, that would be great:
> >
> > NAME: What's the Temperature?
> >
> > N 34 27.750  W 112 25.526
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Get a little workout, make a weather observation, and score a cache.
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> >
> > RATING: 1.5/2.5
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> >
> > This is probably the first cache in Arizona that asks you to make a
> > meteorological observation!
> >
> > I don't like to have people driving around in circles trying to
> figure
> > out
> > where to park, and contributing to air pollution.  So, drive south
> from
> > Prescott on the paved Senator Highway, go about 6 miles, and park at
> > the
> > Groom Creek trailhead parking lot, at N 34 27.881, W 112 26.448.
> > There is
> > a 2 dollar forest service fee there.  Then put on your hiking boots
> and
> > walk just over a mile up the 307 trail, with about 500 feet of
> > elevation
> > gain, to a thermometer in the middle of nowhere.
> >
> > What is a thermometer doing HERE, of all places?  Beats me.  I didn't
> > place
> > it here, but it's been here for over 10 years.  I first noticed it
> > after
> > relieving myself in the early 1990's, long before geocaching started,
> > just
> > north of the the trail.  As I walked back, the white color of the
> > instrument caught my eye.  It is located on the back side of a tree
> > within
> > 10 feet of the trail.
> >
> > I'm sure at least a few other people have spotted this thermometer,
> > but no
> > one has removed it during the 11 years or so I've known of its
> > existence;
> > and for all I know, it may have been there for years before the early
> > 1990's.  It is NOT in a wilderness area, just a regular National
> forest
> > area, so it doesn't violate any wilderness ethics.  The numbers
> > showing 50,
> > 60, 70, 80 degrees have definitely faded with time, but are still
> > readable.
> >
> > You will need to look at 2 words on the thermometer.  At the top
> there
> > is
> > one word (probably brand name); write that down.  In the lower left,
> > below
> > minus 60 degrees (doubt it ever gets anywhere near that cold here),
> is
> > a
> > word followed by 3 initials (probably the company name); write that
> > down.
> > This item in the lower left is faded and a bit hard to read, so I
> will
> > accept reasonable fascimiles of what it says.  The word on top is
> still
> > very clear, however.
> >
> > To get credit for this virtual cache, you will need to email me
> (Mike)
> > with
> > the word at the top, and the word plus 3 initials on the lower left
> of
> > the
> > thermometer.  Make sure you do NOT post your answers here, even if
> > encrypted.
> >
> > Then, note the temperature reading on the thermometer, and please DO
> > post
> > that with your log, along with the time of day.  It will be
> > interesting to
> > see how the readings vary with whether its early morning or
> afternoon,
> > whether its rained recently, and of course, the time of year.  For
> the
> > record, it read 73 degrees at 5 PM on 5/25/2003.
> >
> > When you get to the listed coordinates, at about 6920 feet elevation,
> > look
> > on the back side of a tree within 10 feet of the trail, on the north
> > side
> > of the trail.  This is a ponderosa pine forest, and even though the
> > trees
> > aren't real tall here, GPS signals can be degraded some.  If you
> don't
> > find
> > the thermometer right away, search in a 40-foot radius.  The trail
> > isn't
> > too high-traffic, but in case a group of hikers or horseback riders
> > comes
> > by when you are at the thermometer, be discrete and try not to draw
> > attention to it until they pass.  As with a physical cache container,
> > we
> > don't want those who don't currently know about the thermometer to
> > know of
> > its existence, and possibly decide to remove it.
> >
> > If you feel so inclined, and have the time, continue on up the trail
> > to the
> > summit of Spruce Mtn.  This will be a 6 mile roundtrip hike, with
> 1400
> > feet
> > of elevation gain total.  Or, if you're really ambitious, do the
> full 9
> > mile loop hike clockwise.  If you haven't been to the <B>Spruce "Wild
> > Goose" Cache</B> yet, that cache awaits you near the summit, just 1.5
> > miles
> > from here!  So, score 2 caches on this hike, not just this one!
> >
> > Have fun contributing to the climatic records for Arizona!
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> >
> > HINT:
> > Some shrubbery guards the approach to the back side of the tree; it's
> > not
> > very open there.  However, I have yet to wear long pants on this
> trail.
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Mike
> > Team Malthusian
> >
> > Brian wrote:
> > >
> > >Message: 1
> > >Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 21:38:14 -0700
> > >From: Brian Cluff <brian@Snaptek.com>
> > >To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> > >Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Thermometer Virtual Cache rejected  :(
> > >Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> > >
> > >Mike Schwarz wrote:
> > >> The cache is now in an archived state, and I believe it will
> > >> be viewable IF you are logged in to geocaching.com, at this URL:
> > >>
> > >> http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=71199
> > >
> > >> N 34 27.750  W 112 25.526
> > >
> > >Looks like it won't let anyone but you view the cache, even if you
> > are
> > >logged in.  I was going to add it to the list of archived caches,
> so
> > >that people could get credit for logging it.
> > >Oh well.. It seemed interesting to me.
> > >
> > >Brian Cluff
> > >Team Snaptek
> > >
> > >
> > >--__--__--
> > >
> > >
> >
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