[Az-Geocaching] Superstition Caches

[Mike Ingoglia]

Someone post some coordinates of abandoned cars...  Let's start this
weekend.  :-)


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Nelson" <peakbagger2@cox.net>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Superstition Caches


> Yes, in fact I was a little worried about that statement as it was being
> repeated.  Those who haven't been following this thread might think I was
> giving some inside information.  It was, as you say, based only on Joe's
> message so we shouldn't get carried away with what might be just  rumors
or
> otherwise unsubstantiated remarks.
>
> I really like these ideas about making wrecked cars into cache containers,
> though.  This could expand into all kinds of ways to change government for
> the better.  Cachers could be the saviours of America!  :O)
>
> Jerry
> Offtrail
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Burkett" <wburkett@yahoo.com>
> To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 7:37 PM
> Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Superstition Caches
>
>
> > A fundamental question here:
> >
> > Jerry, when you say "It seems all National Forest caches will soon be
> > removed," is that a statement based on something someone in an official
> > capacity told you, or is it your conclusion from Joe's message?
> >
> > It seems like a perfectly valid conclusion to draw, based on what we're
> > hearing from the Tonto NF folks, but a conclusion and a statement of
> > authority are two different things.
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> > [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]  On Behalf Of
Jerry
> > Nelson
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 8:12 PM
> > To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Superstition Caches
> >
> > It seems all National Forest caches will soon be removed.
> >
> > I'll admit I wasn't at all upset about removing caches in wilderness but
> > feared it would be expanded to all forest service land. When you think
> about
> > the damage other types of recreational and economic uses are doing,
> caching
> > seems extremely low impact by comparison.  So cows are OK, but not
caches?
> > ...sigh.
> >
> > Steve, does this mean the Feb. 2 event is cancelled?
> >
> > Jerry
> > Offtrail
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joe Brekke" <joenveng@cableaz.com>
> > To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 6:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Superstition Caches
> >
> >
> > > I too went to the Mesa Ranger Station today to pick up our cache that
> was
> > > taken from the Peralta Trail area.  The folks there were very nice,
and
> I
> > > apologized for placing it there.  He told me pretty much twhat I
thought
> > he
> > > would that they are concerned with ancillary trails being forged from
> > people
> > > looking for caches, and also that it was personal property abandoned
in
> > the
> > > Wilderness area.
> > >
> > > I inquired about permits or if there was a chance of getting permits.
> The
> > > gentleman replied that there was no way as of now, they had no policy
> and
> > > basically said that it wouldn't happen soon...as it would have to come
> > down
> > > on a Federal level.  I also asked if there were a way to get permits
for
> > > placing caches in the Nat'l Forest, he replied no, and same
> story...don't
> > > hold your breath.  He also told me that they were going to start to
> remove
> > > any caches that are on Forest Service Land...that includes the Nat'l
> > > Forest...
> > >
> > > Looks to me like Jeremy and volunteers at Geocaching.com better get
off
> > > their high-horse about  "Lame Virtual Caches"...(not my favorite
> either),
> > > message that I got today was that was all that would be acceptable in
> > Forest
> > > Service Land...and even if they do allow some at some future date,
they
> > > would be severely restricted.
> > >
> > > Anyway, I do have the cache, including the travel bug that was in
> it....I
> >
> > > will try to place it soon.
> > >
> > > Joe
> > > TeamBlunder
> > >
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