[Az-Geocaching] Superstition Caches

[Jerry Nelson]

Yes, in fact I was a little worried about that statement as it was being
repeated.  Those who haven't been following this thread might think I was
giving some inside information.  It was, as you say, based only on Joe's
message so we shouldn't get carried away with what might be just  rumors or
otherwise unsubstantiated remarks.

I really like these ideas about making wrecked cars into cache containers,
though.  This could expand into all kinds of ways to change government for
the better.  Cachers could be the saviours of America!  :O)

Jerry
Offtrail

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Burkett" <wburkett@yahoo.com>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 7:37 PM
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Superstition Caches


> A fundamental question here:
>
> Jerry, when you say "It seems all National Forest caches will soon be
> removed," is that a statement based on something someone in an official
> capacity told you, or is it your conclusion from Joe's message?
>
> It seems like a perfectly valid conclusion to draw, based on what we're
> hearing from the Tonto NF folks, but a conclusion and a statement of
> authority are two different things.
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]  On Behalf Of Jerry
> Nelson
> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 8:12 PM
> To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Superstition Caches
>
> It seems all National Forest caches will soon be removed.
>
> I'll admit I wasn't at all upset about removing caches in wilderness but
> feared it would be expanded to all forest service land. When you think
about
> the damage other types of recreational and economic uses are doing,
caching
> seems extremely low impact by comparison.  So cows are OK, but not caches?
> ...sigh.
>
> Steve, does this mean the Feb. 2 event is cancelled?
>
> Jerry
> Offtrail
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Brekke" <joenveng@cableaz.com>
> To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 6:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Superstition Caches
>
>
> > I too went to the Mesa Ranger Station today to pick up our cache that
was
> > taken from the Peralta Trail area.  The folks there were very nice, and
I
> > apologized for placing it there.  He told me pretty much twhat I thought
> he
> > would that they are concerned with ancillary trails being forged from
> people
> > looking for caches, and also that it was personal property abandoned in
> the
> > Wilderness area.
> >
> > I inquired about permits or if there was a chance of getting permits.
The
> > gentleman replied that there was no way as of now, they had no policy
and
> > basically said that it wouldn't happen soon...as it would have to come
> down
> > on a Federal level.  I also asked if there were a way to get permits for
> > placing caches in the Nat'l Forest, he replied no, and same
story...don't
> > hold your breath.  He also told me that they were going to start to
remove
> > any caches that are on Forest Service Land...that includes the Nat'l
> > Forest...
> >
> > Looks to me like Jeremy and volunteers at Geocaching.com better get off
> > their high-horse about  "Lame Virtual Caches"...(not my favorite
either),
> > message that I got today was that was all that would be acceptable in
> Forest
> > Service Land...and even if they do allow some at some future date, they
> > would be severely restricted.
> >
> > Anyway, I do have the cache, including the travel bug that was in
it....I
>
> > will try to place it soon.
> >
> > Joe
> > TeamBlunder
> >
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