[Az-Geocaching] I don't love the stats

Jerry B Nelson az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com
Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:55:59 -0700


Or any other date for that matter, if the date you actually were there
can get you in trouble.


On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:43:38 -0700 Jerry B Nelson <peakbagger2@juno.com>
writes:
> If I'm understanding Libby's post......I don't think you have to use 
> the
> date you log in to the Web site as your date of visit to the cache.  
> The
> date in the "Date of Visit" field can be changed from that day's 
> date to
> the date you actually visited the cache and it will show on the site 
> page
> in proper chronological order.  Am I right?
> 
> I also have to agree that I like the stats, but if someone feels 
> this
> strongly about it, there's no reason to include them.  I doubt that 
> many,
> if any, others will opt for noninclusion.
> 
> Offtrail
> 
> On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:07:00 -0700 "wolfb8" <wolfb8@qwest.net> 
> writes:
> > I can see micheal point.... I know I have had to stop logging my 
> > caches on
> > the web because it could get me in trouble if certain people were 
> to 
> > find
> > out. once I get back to work , and log these caches for that day 
> > folks I
> > know will question how I could be in flag and tucson on the same 
> > day... but
> > that will be there problem not mine.... all in all I do like the 
> > stats....
> > but there are good reason not to have them
> > 
> > libby
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Baja Fleg" <fleigle@hotmail.com>
> > To: <az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com>
> > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:01 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] I don't love the stats
> > 
> > 
> > > Like I said Stephen I really don't care about peoples opinion I 
> 
> > just want
> > > our information down.  Of course how many caches someone finds 
> is 
> > public
> > > information but when its all grouped into one website with how 
> > many you
> > find
> > > each day, per week, per month, and what your "cache carma" is 
> > along with
> > > other things then that crosses the line.
> > > Also CBX2 is very correct, the stats are probably a great thing 
> if 
> > you
> > want
> > > to be included in them, we don't.  I really am not trying to be 
> > difficult
> > > here, I just want our privacy respected.  Everyone geocaches for 
> 
> > their own
> > > reason and stats is not part of ours.  It really does make it 
> not 
> > fun for
> > > us.  We used to be huge Geocachers, probably found 5-10 every 
> > week, but
> > > around mid-October we just stopped.  It was because of the 
> contest 
> > that we
> > > feel the stats have made it out to be and how everyone could 
> > basically
> > watch
> > > us from the web.  Stephens proves that.  Also Stephens post 
> points 
> > out how
> > > much of a contest this can be and how "big brother" really does 
> 
> > come into
> > > all of this.
> > > So I'm not saying the stats are bad, just bad for us.  I also 
> > thing this
> > > email group is great, we still get out to Arizona about once 
> every 
> > two
> > > months so its nice to know what's going on and how our old 
> friends 
> > are
> > > doing.  I've met most of you guys and get along with you all so 
> I
> > apologize
> > > for being difficult but its just one of those things we want no 
> 
> > part of
> > and
> > > now its really crossed the line.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > >
> > > ----Original Message Follows----
> > > My opinion is if you don't like the stats, then don't look at 
> > them.  And I
> > > don't see how it's personal information how many you did and 
> > when.
> > > (Everyone can see that I did 6 on Saturday and 3 on Sunday, oh 
> > no!!!!)  In
> > > fact, I've found the stats a big help because it's helped me 
> > organize
> > groups
> > > of caches to do by seeing what others have done on the same 
> day.
> > >
> > > Assuming the information is correct, I looked at the number of 
> AZ 
> > caches
> > > completed since November 1st for the Top 10 people according to 
> 
> > Snaptek's
> > AZ
> > > rankings (what the website told me as of about 7 PM yesterday):
> > >
> > > 1. n4/c = 80
> > > 2. srdrake = 62
> > > 3. trail gypsy = 60
> > > 4. wyle e = 54
> > > 5. cache-quest = 47
> > > 6. mike the mutant = 36
> > > 7. cbx2 = 33
> > > 8. bob renner = 29
> > > 9. wolfb8 = 13
> > > 10. team tj = 0
> > >
> > > (I didn't look at caches done since 11/1 for those not in the 
> > current Top
> > > 10.)
> > >
> > > The caveat is that I began geocaching on 11/22 and n4/c around 
> > the
> > beginning
> > > of November.  We have been able to go after a lot of the easy 
> > urban ones
> > > that the more experienced have gone after prior to November.
> > >
> > > I think it would be interesting if the Snaptek site would 
> (besides 
> > the
> > > overall totals), provide totals for the current month.  We could 
> 
> > see who's
> > > currently possessing the most obsessive-compulsive geocaching 
> > habits at
> > the
> > > moment.
> > >
> > > One thing interesting about Wyle E's geocaching habits...  In 
> > achieving a
> > > total of 210, they/he has never done more than 7 caches in one 
> > day.   (I
> > may
> > > have missed a bigger day.)  That is slow, steady commitment to 
> > this hobby.
> > >
> > > My only complaint about the stats is that it shows caches "not 
> > completed,"
> > > which could influence someone choosing not to log a "can't find" 
> 
> > log.  As
> > it
> > > is, I believe most geocachers only log their successes and not 
> > their
> > > attempts (which would be helpful to all of us).
> > >
> > > -Stephen
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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