[Az-Geocaching] I don't love the stats

Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:43:38 -0700

If I'm understanding Libby's post......I don't think you have to use the
date you log in to the Web site as your date of visit to the cache.  The
date in the "Date of Visit" field can be changed from that day's date to
the date you actually visited the cache and it will show on the site page
in proper chronological order.  Am I right?

I also have to agree that I like the stats, but if someone feels this
strongly about it, there's no reason to include them.  I doubt that many,
if any, others will opt for noninclusion.

Offtrail

On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:07:00 -0700 "wolfb8" <wolfb8@qwest.net> writes:
> I can see micheal point.... I know I have had to stop logging my 
> caches on
> the web because it could get me in trouble if certain people were to 
> find
> out. once I get back to work , and log these caches for that day 
> folks I
> know will question how I could be in flag and tucson on the same 
> day... but
> that will be there problem not mine.... all in all I do like the 
> stats....
> but there are good reason not to have them
> 
> libby
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Baja Fleg" <fleigle@hotmail.com>
> To: <az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] I don't love the stats
> 
> 
> > Like I said Stephen I really don't care about peoples opinion I 
> just want
> > our information down.  Of course how many caches someone finds is 
> public
> > information but when its all grouped into one website with how 
> many you
> find
> > each day, per week, per month, and what your "cache carma" is 
> along with
> > other things then that crosses the line.
> > Also CBX2 is very correct, the stats are probably a great thing if 
> you
> want
> > to be included in them, we don't.  I really am not trying to be 
> difficult
> > here, I just want our privacy respected.  Everyone geocaches for 
> their own
> > reason and stats is not part of ours.  It really does make it not 
> fun for
> > us.  We used to be huge Geocachers, probably found 5-10 every 
> week, but
> > around mid-October we just stopped.  It was because of the contest 
> that we
> > feel the stats have made it out to be and how everyone could 
> basically
> watch
> > us from the web.  Stephens proves that.  Also Stephens post points 
> out how
> > much of a contest this can be and how "big brother" really does 
> come into
> > all of this.
> > So I'm not saying the stats are bad, just bad for us.  I also 
> thing this
> > email group is great, we still get out to Arizona about once every 
> two
> > months so its nice to know what's going on and how our old friends 
> are
> > doing.  I've met most of you guys and get along with you all so I
> apologize
> > for being difficult but its just one of those things we want no 
> part of
> and
> > now its really crossed the line.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> > ----Original Message Follows----
> > My opinion is if you don't like the stats, then don't look at 
> them.  And I
> > don't see how it's personal information how many you did and 
> when.
> > (Everyone can see that I did 6 on Saturday and 3 on Sunday, oh 
> no!!!!)  In
> > fact, I've found the stats a big help because it's helped me 
> organize
> groups
> > of caches to do by seeing what others have done on the same day.
> >
> > Assuming the information is correct, I looked at the number of AZ 
> caches
> > completed since November 1st for the Top 10 people according to 
> Snaptek's
> AZ
> > rankings (what the website told me as of about 7 PM yesterday):
> >
> > 1. n4/c = 80
> > 2. srdrake = 62
> > 3. trail gypsy = 60
> > 4. wyle e = 54
> > 5. cache-quest = 47
> > 6. mike the mutant = 36
> > 7. cbx2 = 33
> > 8. bob renner = 29
> > 9. wolfb8 = 13
> > 10. team tj = 0
> >
> > (I didn't look at caches done since 11/1 for those not in the 
> current Top
> > 10.)
> >
> > The caveat is that I began geocaching on 11/22 and n4/c around 
> the
> beginning
> > of November.  We have been able to go after a lot of the easy 
> urban ones
> > that the more experienced have gone after prior to November.
> >
> > I think it would be interesting if the Snaptek site would (besides 
> the
> > overall totals), provide totals for the current month.  We could 
> see who's
> > currently possessing the most obsessive-compulsive geocaching 
> habits at
> the
> > moment.
> >
> > One thing interesting about Wyle E's geocaching habits...  In 
> achieving a
> > total of 210, they/he has never done more than 7 caches in one 
> day.   (I
> may
> > have missed a bigger day.)  That is slow, steady commitment to 
> this hobby.
> >
> > My only complaint about the stats is that it shows caches "not 
> completed,"
> > which could influence someone choosing not to log a "can't find" 
> log.  As
> it
> > is, I believe most geocachers only log their successes and not 
> their
> > attempts (which would be helpful to all of us).
> >
> > -Stephen
> >
> >
> >
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