Re: [Az-Geocaching] Helping to spread the word ...

I agree. Everyone plays the game according to their own preferences,
whether it be going after only tough hikes, difficult puzzles or simply
logging as many finds as possible, so this just limits our options. I'm
especially surprised that they opted not to grandfather existing caches and
instead made the change retroactive.

While TPTB were updating the guidelines, I was surprised to see that they
didn't remove the following section from the guidelines for Mystery or
Puzzle Caches:

*Challenge caches incorporate special logging requirements and are listed as
Mystery/Puzzle caches. Typically they require the seeker to have previously
met a reasonable geocaching-related qualification (Waymarking and Wherigo
qualify too, of course) such as first finding a cache in every county in
your state. If you are thinking of creating such a cache, please include a
note to the reviewer demonstrating either that you have met the challenge
yourself, or that a substantial number of other geocachers would be able to
do so.*

In light of the new guideline, that *"Cache finders can choose whether or
not to attempt or accomplish optional tasks"*, what's the purpose of putting
out a challenge cache if cachers aren't required to complete the challenge
to log the find? Why have any ALRs at all?


On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 9:33 AM, MEL HOCKWITT <melhockwitt@msn.com> wrote:

> Looks like taking the fun out of caching is on the way. Too many rules
> have killed many an organization and put bad tastes in the mouths of the
> members.
>
> My thoughts.
> Mel
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* ShadowAce <shadowace.az@gmail.com>
> *To:* listserv@azgeocaching.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 05, 2009 9:03 AM
> *Subject:* [Az-Geocaching] Helping to spread the word ...
>
> http://forums.groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=218388
>
> Alternate Logging Requirements No longer allowed.
>
> So Any cache listed as a ? with Alternate Logging Requirements needs be
> altered or archived because "You must find and prove you have found 40
> caches on a Friday" is now changed to "come find my cache, sign the log and
> claim a find"
>
> Please make sure you note the changes to the guidelines dates April 2009:
>
>

>    1. *A section called Logging of All Physical Caches<http://www.geocaching.com/about/guidelines.aspx#loggingofallcaches>has been added to the guidelines.
>    *

>
> QUOTE
> Geocaches can be logged online as Found once the physical log has been
> signed.
>
> If it is appropriate for your cache location or theme, you may ask the
> cache seeker to accomplish an optional and simple task, either close to the
> cache site (normally within 0.1 miles or 161 meters) or when writing their
> online log. For example, wear the goofy hat inside the cache container and
> upload a photograph. Cache finders can choose whether or not to attempt or
> accomplish optional tasks. Cache owners may not delete the cache seeker's
> log based solely on optional tasks.
>
> This guideline change applies immediately to all logs written from April 4,
> 2009 and going forward. Older caches with "additional logging requirements"
> (ALRs) are not grandfathered under the older guideline. If you own an
> existing cache with mandatory additional logging requirements, we request
> that you:
>

>    - Cease deleting logs based on additional logging requirements.
>    - Review your own cache listing to see if the ALR can be made into an
>    optional and simple task, or whether it must be removed altogether.
>    - Adjust your geocache listing by editing the text then contact a
>    reviewer to change the cache type, if appropriate.

>
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