Re: [Az-Geocaching] New Fake cache logger - FYI

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Author: Bob & Linda Smith
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Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] New Fake cache logger - FYI
Thanks ACM for the info. I just got on crutches to talk with both legs
today with the help of my physical therapist. It's going to be a while
yet before I can go back out as it is about 2.5 miles from parking which
I was able to get to with my little horse pulling me in the cart or on
bike. Right now the left leg will not allow any of that sore of
activity. The other thing that bothers me is the fact that I've had 2
of the nice GC cache containers stolen from there. Not that big a deal
but when someone steals your $5 water proof container you wonder if it
is worth replacing. We will see after my leg heals some more. This
cache was my 'Brownlow Alligator' GCJNXG I replaced the container on
July 7th of 2008. On July 27th I was shot in the leg with a 9mm pistol
and have been working on the healing and can't get back out yet. It was
archived 'for me' on March 9th of 2009 while I had marked as temporally
archived on Jan 8th of 2009 I just didn't like the idea of it being
'archived' for me.

Anyway, Thanks again.
Bob Smith, Team Petite Elite
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From: AZcachemeister
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Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] New Fake cache logger - FYI


HMMM! Yes, a possibility I hadn't considered. Perhaps you should
either be more insistent that it be returned to temp disabled status, or
write up a new cache at the same location and not check the 'ACTIVE'
checkbox. I understand the reviewers can see 'caches in progress', and
will respect the claim to the location for a time. No telling if that
would work in this case.

ACM

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  Jake Olson wrote:
    But while it's archived, another cache can be placed within the 
528ft radius.  My point was that I was trying to hold the area until the 
construction was complete and evaluate reactivating it or archiving the 
cache myself.  I can't do that if another cache has encroached.  It's 
the same reason I didn't move it... the Mostly 7's name would lose its 
significance if it's moved.


    Jake - Team A.I.



    On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Rich B <> wrote:


      That is good to know - we have a cache we want to un-archive and 
place a "less conspicuous" container for it.  Will keep this in mind.





      On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 5:26 PM, AZcachemeister 
<> wrote:


        Jake,
        and Bob,
        Once your caches are repaired/replaced, they can be unarchived 
and put back in service.
        An EMail to our reviewer (with a link to the cache page included 
for convenience) stating that the cache is fixed should result in 
unarchival.
        Worst case scenario is you would need to 'hide' a 'new' cache at 
the same location.
        The speed with which disabled caches are archived is pretty-much 
left up to the local reviewer, and is not mandated by 
Groundspeak/Geocaching.com.
        With around 500 caches a month being published  in Arizona alone 
(I could only guess how many are submitted) our reviewer is overworked 
and under paid, and should be screaming for some help. With that kind of 
pressure, some errors of judgment are bound to creep in.


        Back on topic. Once a virtual is archived, it's gone for good. 
:'(


        ACM


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        Jake Olson wrote:
          Similarly, they archived one of my caches that I disabled due 
to construction in the area.  I posted a note on the cache before the 
archive stating that I was wanting to hold the cache disabled until the 
construction was complete to re-evaluate archiving it myself then. I 
sent a subsequent note to the approver that archived it which went 
ignored, or at least un-responded to.


          The cache was named "Mostly 7's" and ended with 4 sevens in 
both the longitude and latitude.  Moving the cache to an adjacent 
location would have undermined the whole concept of the placement.


          Jake - Team A.I.



          On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Bob & Linda Smith 
<> wrote:


            I think I must agree here that some things GC see as needing 
heavy-handedness.  They decided to archive one of my caches that I 
temporally archived because I had not replaced it within 30 days.  I 
explained in a note that I was laid up with a serious leg injury and 
would get to it asap.  I don't think they read that but just acted on 
the flag on my tempory archive.  Which by the way must be fairly new as 
they threatened to archive another of my caches when I temporally 
archived it over a year ago and the flag just popped up.  I found that I 
needed to post a different kind of log other than just a note.


            I still look after a couple of caches for away owner that 
are close to me.


            Anyway, we get a note whenever our caches are logged on line 
and should act on the note if needed.


            Jumping off box onto bad leg Ouch!!
            Bob Smith, Team Petite Elite, Prescott, AZ



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