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Author: EMa
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Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Am I missing something - Magellen 200s
Well I guess we all cant be perfect. Its a shame that some people never
experience a DNF. What a feeling to know that someone hid such a good cache
that you need to come back a 2nd and 3rd time just to find it.

On 11/14/06, Ford, Denny <> wrote:
>
> Ok I will finally pipe in,
> If you are a good Geocacher, if you get within 25 feet of the cache you
> can find it, does not matter the tools, it is the skill of the cacher.
> For the Amateurs who actually need the GPS to find the cache I feel
> sorry for you.
>
> Denny Ford, Tres Hombres
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> [mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of
>
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 12:33 PM
> To:
> Cc: Guy Aldrich
> Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Am I missing something - Magellen 200s
>
> Still nice to have the Discriptions and Past Logs so I would give up on
> the PDA.
>
> Team Sand Dollar
>
> ---- Guy Aldrich <> wrote:
> > I have to say the Garmin 60CSX is the most accurate unit I've seen
> > under all conditions and I have a Magellan meridian and a explorist
> > 210. With that new Cirf chip it seems to get you to ground zero
> > quicker . The explorist 210 has the most bang for the buck,You really
> > don't need a PDA because it displays type of container,full
> > name,terrain,difficulty,date last found and the full hint.
> >
> > On 11/13/06, Brian Casteel <> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't recall having problems like that in most cases. In fact,
> often
> > > times while sitting on my butt writing my cache log, I'll look over
> to the
> > > GPS and watch it flirt with 0' on a regular basis. If it happens to
> get no
> > > closer than 5' on a cache, I'd consider that quite excellent
> overall.
> > > Magellan has advantages over Garmin and likewise Garmin over
> Magellan. The
> > > most obvious between the 2 is the abundance of mapping software
> options
> > > Garmin has available to the very limited Magellan options. Of
> course, with
> > > the newer gen Garmin units, satellite acquisition is much better
> with the
> > > new SeRF chip.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > > Team A.I.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > >
> > > From:
> > > [mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On
> > > Behalf Of Cordell Harris
> > > Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 10:06 AM
> > > To:
> > > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Am I missing something - Magellen 200s
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > OK Scott. Did I fail to mention that we have had the opportunity to
> compare
> > > the performance of (7) seven Magellan and Garmins against each other
> while
> > > doing something like 500 plus caches all over the US. In my
> original
> > > missive a forgot about the emap unit. The units we used are the
> Garmin
> > > Emap, 76CS, Etrex Legend, Etrex Legend Vista Cx. The 3 Magellans
> were all
> > > Sportrack Pros. We seem to keep dropping them! Maybe I should also
> note
> > > that none of the units failed operationally. Of all the Garmins the
> Etrex
> > > Legend is the best, e.g. sensititivy and accuracy. All the others
> have/had
> > > serious errors of 7 to 10 ft on the high resolution scale. These
> errors are
> > > consistent with caches that were placed by careful knowledgeable
> cachers.
> > > We have also had opportunity to compare waypoints established
> scientifically
> > > by standards. The 3 Magellan Sportrack Pros were all perfect
> replicas and
> > > were dead on. I am not hostile toward Garmin, but cannot ignore
> results.
> > > Both mapsource and mapsend topos (I have both) will allow exchange
> of
> > > waypoints but not maps. What I would like to be able to do is use
> Delorme
> > > topo maps (superior) in either or both brands of receivers with
> Garmin
> > > waypoint symbols. My backhand at Garmin is simply because they are
> the
> > > industry leaders in terms of sales and promotions and for now get to
> set the
> > > trend. Magellan Sportrack Pros are a great deal and very adequate
> for
> > > geocaching. I repeat my offer to trade the etrex legend vista Cx
> for a
> > > eXplorist 500. There is nothing wrong with the vista Cx except the
> offset
> > > mentioned above.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/13/06, Roping The Wind <> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Cordell Harris" <>
> > >
> > > >Magellan has better, more user friendly receivers that are more
> sensitive
> > > >and accurate. If >unconvinced, try caching with the owner of a
> Magellan
> > > >Sportrack Pro. Presently, we own two >Garmins a etrex legend and
> an etrex
> > > >legend vista cx.
> > >
> > > The etrex line uses a patch antenna, which IMHO, is crap. Upgrade
> to the
> > > new
> > > 60CSX and you will probably never see anything more accurate. I do
> not
> > > beleive that you can compare two GPS units for accuracy on a single
> > > geocache
> > > or any geocache for that matter. The cache owner's coordinates
> could be off
> > > for one. Also, both your GPS units will give slightly different
> readings on
> > > where the cache is supposed to be. To find true accuracy, take a
> waypoint
> > > and mark it with your GPS. Of course, with any GPS, you have to
> leave it
> > > there for a few minutes for a most accurate reading (too many
> inexperienced
> > > cachers hide a cache, hit mark on their GPS and leave and dont
> allow the
> > > GPS
> > > to average location). Now, walk away a few hundred feet or more and
> then
> > > come back to ground zero and see where your GPS takes you. Do this
> with two
> > > units that you want to compare and see which one is most accurate.
> > >
> > > Of course, as Loran said, all GPS's these days are decently
> accurate. They
> > > will all take you to a waypoint and get you within 30 feet or less.
> Do the
> > > example above once and you will find that both GPS's did their job
> well
> > > enough. If you want to find truly which unit is better, with there
> still
> > > being slight errors in GPS's, you will still need to do the example
> above
> > > several times to average your results out to truly see which unit
> is
> > > better.
> > > Seems nit picky. Well it is... as I just said, all GPS's are
> accurate
> > > enough. Still, if you want a GPS for just geocaching or marking
> waypoints,
> > > then a patch antenna Etrex or a Magellan GPS Blazer 12 (now that is
> > > ancient!
> > > and I have one too) is all you need. If you want to mark a little
> hole in
> > > the ground that an ant just went in to and then come back a week
> later to
> > > find it... then you need to spend the bigger dollars for a unit
> with a 12
> > > channel SiRFstar III high-sensitivity (WAAS-enabled) chip and
> built-in quad
> > > helix antenna, with external antenna connection (like the Garmin
> 60csX).
> > > Either units will get you to a geocache or any point for that
> matter. But
> > > the latter technology will, on average, get you to a specific point
> more
> > > consistantly.
> > >
> > > >Garmins are overpriced/overrated and as industry leaders don't
> like the
> > > >strangle hold they maintain >on proprietary mapping software. We
> badly
> > > >need mapping software that will function universally in
> >handhelds.
> > >
> > > Correct me if I am wrong, but doesnt Magellan also use proprietary
> mapping
> > > software? (Mapsend). I could be wrong on this, but I beleive both
> Magellan
> > > and Garmin have their own specific mapping software that must be
> used for
> > > mapping. I think both brands will accept some other mapping
> software, but
> > > only for uploading and transfering of waypoints, tracks, etc and
> not maps.
> > > If you want maps in your unit, you have to use their own mapping
> software
> > > (Mapsend or Mapsource).
> > >
> > > Scott
> > > Team Ropingthewind
> > >
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