How eloquently put Bill
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>From: "EvilFISH" <EvilFish@cox.net>
>Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
>To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
>Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] RE: forwarded forum post about micro/urban
>caches
>Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 07:19:57 -0700
>
>let me add hiding a cache with the intent of it being found....
>
>
>anyway
>
>back to work
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bill Nolan
> To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 6:53 AM
> Subject: [Az-Geocaching] RE: forwarded forum post about micro/urban
>caches
>
>
> Ah yes, another controversy.. This is such an interesting group.
>There are obviously many ways to enjoy this sport, but some participants
>feel threatened if you choose to enjoy it in some other way than their
>favorite. We have the Urban vs Rural, Micro vs Traditional, Hiders vs
>Finders, and, of course, the Numbers People vs the No-Numbers People. I'm
>sure many of you can think of others. Then we wonder why war is so common.
>
>
>
> I have experienced this firsthand. My wife and I choose not to log
>caches, not because we think there is anything wrong with the numbers game,
>but simply because we don't want to participate in that. When I mentioned
>that on this list, I received several private emails (from people still
>active here) that could only be described as abusive and threatening. Part
>of that was because I was interviewed by a reporter from Phoenix who knew
>me and knew I was active in the sport, and some here didn't think I had the
>"numbers" to speak out like that.
>
>
>
> Then we made our second mistake. We placed a cache. It wasn't anything
>special, but the emails it brought me were even worse than the first batch.
> How dare I place a cache when my find numbers were so low? It was
>obvious I didn't have the experience to actually place a cache. Well, I'm
>a fast learner. The other ammo cans I bought are still sitting, fully
>stocked, out in my storage shed. I didn't want to get any more nasty
>emails. Too bad. We do a lot of 4-wheeling, and I have some good places
>in mind.
>
>
>
> Geocaching is a great sport, accessible to people of all ages and levels
>of physical ability. If it fails the test of time, it will be because of
>people who think their way is the right way - the ONLY right way.
>
>
>
> So, we will continue to play, our way. We don't log our finds very
>often, and we don't do urban caches. Since we choose to live 8 miles
>outside a very small town, it shouldn't come as a surprise that we avoid
>cities. We also quit hiding caches, so those of you here who jumped all
>over us for the first one (you know who you are) - well, I'll give you a
>win on that one.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
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> From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
>[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Gale
> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 5:21 AM
>
>
> Next time you place a cache......let's get back to what made us want to
>go
> geocaching in the first place."
>
>
>
> I had to respond to this one.
>
>
>
> This article was written by someone who wants to return to the days
>where only physically fit people have access to caches. Like it or not,
>other people have become geocachers. Physically unfit people have
>discovered an activity they can enjoy. I dont see why both cache types cant
>co-exist? Ive seen some nice rural caches, as well as junky ones. Same with
>urban caches
>
>
>
> "Again, lately I have really been enjoying the occasional cache I have
>found
> as I have been really only doing wilderness hiking caches around Sedona.
> They are my kind of fun."
>
>
>
> Thats great Scott, but it is not my idea of fun. Feel free to play your
>way. I cant do those kinds of caches. Ever since falling down stairs 12 yrs
>ago, I have not had the mobility I used to have. I would like to continue
>to play the game my way without feeling like an unwelcome outsider.
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