RE: [Az-Geocaching] Mad Park Ranger

One great place to investigate, and yes...it takes an effort, is the state
land department downtown. They have detailed maps available showing the
'ownership' of every plot of land in the state. Once you know who 'owns' a
piece of land, you can use http://www.geocachingpolicy.info/
<http://www.geocachingpolicy.info/> <http://www.geocaching-policy.info> to
find out if they have a published policy on geocaching. Then you can
contact them to receive permission to hide the cache.

LazyK - Dan


----- Original Message -----

From: David <mailto:dthompsen@yahoo.com> Thompsen
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com <mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Mad Park Ranger

This brings up something I've wanted to know for a long time.

Can someone that is in the know compile a list of which sections of Arizona
are off-limits or require permission? Some, like Native American land,
would seem to me to be obviously off-limits, but I really am not sure about
some of the parks and/or mountains as to who they're managed by or whether
they're appropriate. A comprehensive list, if possible, would be extremely
helpful.

arry H <friared1@yahoo.com> wrote:

Any land managed by the National Park Service is
off-limits to physical geocaches.

--- Trisha wrote:
> Is a "National Monument" exactly the same as a
> "National Park"?
> As in....."Grand Canyon National Park" or
> "Yellowstone National Park",
> are these treated the same as a "National Monument"
> or in this case,
> "Coronado National Memorial"?
> If they are the same, shouldn't the "rules" list ALL
> the National
> categories (Parks, Monuments, etc) as off
> limits....or maybe it does
> already? I thought all it said was "National Parks".
> What about something like the "Cabeza NATIONAL
> Wildlife Refuge?" Arent
> there several caches in there that a bunch of teams
> went in and found
> together? Is that treated the SAME as a "National
> Park"?
> This needs clarification, I was only aware of the
> ban in "National
> Parks" and on my map the area in question (I think)
> says "Coronado
> National Memorial" NOT PARK.??
> Trisha "Lightning"
>
>
>
> On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 20:54:12 -0700, "Brian - Team
> A.I." wrote:
>
> >
> > He's a law enforcement official, and well within
> his rights to make
> > sure you
> > aren't wanted (and for his safety), near the
> border or in the middle
> > of a
> > city. That being said, I think he is right in the
> fact that it isn't
> > allowed. This may have existed prior to the rule
> banning caches in
> > National
> > Parks.
> >
> > Brian
> > Team A.I.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Team J"
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 7:47 PM
> > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Mad Park Ranger
> >
> >
> > > I'm on the watch list for this cache and got
> this today. Anyone
> who
> > deals
> > > with the various gov't people about geocaching
> may be interested.
> I
> > don't
> > > know how big a deal it may be/become, but this
> isn't a good thing
> for
> > > geocaching. A Park Ranger caught a geocacher,
> "ran his ID," and
> > informed
> > > him he couldn't have a geocache in the nat'l
> park without a
> permit.
> > See
> > > below fwd'd message for the actual post. I'm
> not trying to dime
> out
> > the
> > > finder or the hider. I just thought the event
> was worth noting for
> > all of
> > > us.
> > >
> > > Noah of Team J
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From:
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 11:33 AM
> > > Subject: [LOG] Watchlist: fender437 found Cave
> Hike Cache
> > (Traditional
> > > Cache)
> > >
> > >
> > > > This is an automated message from
> Geocaching.com
> > > >
> > > > You are receiving this email because this
> listing is on your
> watch
> > list.
> > > Visit the web site to change your watchlist
> settings.
> > > >
> > > > fender437 found Cave Hike Cache (Traditional
> Cache) at 7/6/2004
> > > >
> > > > Log Date: 7/6/2004
> > > > Found it no prob! lem, but when I closed it up a
> park ranger was
> > standing
> > > there. He informed me that you can't have a
> geocashe in the
> national
> > park
> > > without a permit. I thanked him for the info and
> tried to go on my
> > way,
> > but
> > > he ran my ID, so I guess I am now on a on a list
> of some kind.
> Don't
> > know
> > if
> > > it will still be there anymore.
> > > >
> > > > Visit this log entry at the below address:
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?LUID=61a5e00d-228b-4548-ae74-31672a0
7f9d0
> > > >
> > > > Visit GC61EA
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=11fda3f9-65ef-4c17-bf
be-295e427d8311
> > > >
>! > > > Profile for fender437:
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.geocaching.com/profile/?guid=0e1430f0-7cd9-41b2-80f6-fc58e7fd2bf0
> > > >
> > > > Search for caches from this location:
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/nearest.aspx?lat=31.3465666666667&lon=-110.25
755
> > > >
> > >
>
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=====
FriarED

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having a peeing section in a swimming pool?



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