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Author: Brian - Team A.I.
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Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Mad Park Ranger
All you need to know about res land is, don't even think about it. Not that it would happen, but because res land is a sovereign nation (of sorts), technically they can shoot you if you are caught trespassing on their land.

Brian
Team A.I.
----- Original Message -----
From: David Thompsen
To:
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Mad Park Ranger


This brings up something I've wanted to know for a long time.

Can someone that is in the know compile a list of which sections of Arizona are off-limits or require permission? Some, like Native American land, would seem to me to be obviously off-limits, but I really am not sure about some of the parks and/or mountains as to who they're managed by or whether they're appropriate. A comprehensive list, if possible, would be extremely helpful.

  arry H <> wrote:
    Any land managed by the National Park Service is
    off-limits to physical geocaches.


    --- Trisha wrote:
    > Is a "National Monument" exactly the same as a
    > "National Park"?
    > As in....."Grand Canyon National Park" or
    > "Yellowstone National Park",
    > are these treated the same as a "National Monument"
    > or in this case,
    > "Coronado National Memorial"?
    > If they are the same, shouldn't the "rules" list ALL
    > the National
    > categories (Parks, Monuments, etc) as off
    > limits....or maybe it does
    > already? I thought all it said was "National Parks".
    > What about something like the "Cabeza NATIONAL
    > Wildlife Refuge?" Arent
    > there several caches in there that a bunch of teams
    > went in and found
    > together? Is that treated the SAME as a "National
    > Park"?
    > This needs clarification, I was only aware of the
    > ban in "National
    > Parks" and on my map the area in question (I think)
    > says "Coronado
    > National Memorial" NOT PARK.??
    > Trisha "Lightning"
    > 

    > 

    > 
    > On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 20:54:12 -0700, "Brian - Team
    > A.I." wrote:

    > 

    > > 
    > > He's a law enforcement official, and well within
    > his rights to make
    > > sure you
    > > aren't wanted (and for his safety), near the
    > border or in the middle
    > > of a
    > > city. That being said, I think he is right in the
    > fact that it isn't
    > > allowed. This may have existed prior to the rule
    > banning caches in
    > > National
    > > Parks.

    > > 
    > > Brian
    > > Team A.I.

    > > 
    > > ----- Original Message ----- 
    > > From: "Team J" 
    > > To: 
    > > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 7:47 PM
    > > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Mad Park Ranger

    > > 

    > > 
    > > > I'm on the watch list for this cache and got
    > this today. Anyone
    > who
    > > deals
    > > > with the various gov't people about geocaching
    > may be interested. 
    > I
    > > don't
    > > > know how big a deal it may be/become, but this
    > isn't a good thing
    > for
    > > > geocaching. A Park Ranger caught a geocacher,
    > "ran his ID," and
    > > informed
    > > > him he couldn't have a geocache in the nat'l
    > park without a
    > permit. 
    > > See
    > > > below fwd'd message for the actual post. I'm
    > not trying to dime
    > out
    > > the
    > > > finder or the hider. I just thought the event
    > was worth noting for
    > > all of
    > > > us.

    > > >
    > > > Noah of Team J

    > > >

    > > >
    > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
    > > > From: 
    > > > To: 
    > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 11:33 AM
    > > > Subject: [LOG] Watchlist: fender437 found Cave
    > Hike Cache
    > > (Traditional
    > > > Cache)

    > > >

    > > >
    > > > > This is an automated message from
    > Geocaching.com

    > > > >
    > > > > You are receiving this email because this
    > listing is on your
    > watch
    > > list.
    > > > Visit the web site to change your watchlist
    > settings.

    > > > >
    > > > > fender437 found Cave Hike Cache (Traditional
    > Cache) at 7/6/2004

    > > > >
    > > > > Log Date: 7/6/2004
    > > > > Found it no prob! lem, but when I closed it up a
    > park ranger was
    > > standing
    > > > there. He informed me that you can't have a
    > geocashe in the
    > national
    > > park
    > > > without a permit. I thanked him for the info and
    > tried to go on my
    > > way,
    > > but
    > > > he ran my ID, so I guess I am now on a on a list
    > of some kind.
    > Don't
    > > know
    > > if
    > > > it will still be there anymore.

    > > > >
    > > > > Visit this log entry at the below address:

    > > > >

    > > >

    > >

    >
    http://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?LUID=61a5e00d-228b-4548-ae74-31672a07f9d0

    > > > >
    > > > > Visit GC61EA

    > > > >

    > > >

    > >

    >
    http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=11fda3f9-65ef-4c17-bfbe-295e427d8311

    > > > >
    >! > > > Profile for fender437:

    > > > >

    > > >

    > >

    >
    http://www.geocaching.com/profile/?guid=0e1430f0-7cd9-41b2-80f6-fc58e7fd2bf0

    > > > >
    > > > > Search for caches from this location:

    > > > >

    > > >

    > >

    >
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    > > > >

    > > >

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