Re: [Az-Geocaching] Team Rankings

RTW wrote:
> I believe a team can stay around town and eventually rack
up a few hundred
> caches in no time at all, but in the end, they will run
out of caches to
> find and will then have to head out of town for some of
the more difficult
> ones. Yea, new ones are popping up in urban areas every
other day. But,
> again.. the top teams will go out and do some wilderness
caches, then get
> the new urban ones and go right back out and do more
hiking/wilderness
> caches when there arent any more in the urban areas to do.
While the other
> guy is still just doing the urban caches and then sitting
around for another
> urban cache to pop up to go get.

Scott, you bring up a great point! One thing to note about
the top teams is that they all have a high D+T average.
Which shows how well rounded they are and why they are able
to stay on top. An interesting plot would be a teams D+T
average over time or D+T average versus number of caches
found per month or week.

-Rob (Wily Javelina)



----- Original Message -----
From: "RopingThe Wind" <arizcowboy@hotmail.com>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Team Rankings


> >From: "Rob Brinkerhoff" <brinkerhoff@cox.net>
> >Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> >To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
> >Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Team Rankings
> >Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 21:11:09 -0700
> >
> >Here is a question for the group. Why are teams ranked by
> >the total number of caches found? Would not a more valid
> >metric be Score (Totals of Difficulty and Terrain Ratings
of
> >Found and Hid, as defined by azgeocaching.com)? Suppose
that
> >there were 1005 locationless caches located in Arizona.
If
> >one logged all 1005 locationless caches (I am not ragging
on
> >locationless caches, just an example) and only those 1005
> >locationless caches they, per definition, would be the
top
> >AZ geocaching team. The top spot could feasibly be had
> >without cracking open a single ammo can or peering into a
> >still minty fresh altoids tin! Okay, now replace
> >locationless with virtuals or 1/1 urbans, a more viable
> >possibility. Does that really define the top caching
team?
> >Maybe it does. Clearly some folks prefer and/or are
limited
> >to urbans or ammo cans or locationless or puzzles or
> >whatever. Don't get me wrong. I am very impressed with
the
> >routine 30+ finds in a day. I have yet to find more than
10
> >or 15 in a day. Though I have on several occasions spent
a
> >full and exhausting day only to find 5 or so caches. Also
on
> >several occasions I have spent days-on-end only to find
one
> >cache.
> >
> >Personally, I would like to see the top team ranked in
terms
> >of Score. I think that it gives a more well-rounded view
of
> >a teams ability. Of course that is only my opinion. What
do
> >the rest of you folks think?
> >
> >-Rob (Wily Javelina)
>
>
> I would not disagree with Rob's comments. That would seem
valid to me as
> well. I too think that a well rounded score by result of
doing the easy 1/1
> urban caches as well as the tough 4 and 4.5 terrain rated
caches would
> certainly prove the top team.
>
> However, on the other hand.. I also feel that to be a top
team, you
> eventually have to do them all. AZSaluki is currently the
top team. If you
> look at their list of found caches, they not only did the
easy urban ones
> (for the numbers), but also made the steep climbs up to
some of the tougher
> AZ caches. Wyle E didnt tend to do the most difficult of
hiking caches, but
> with a really good off road vehicle, he is always able to
get back to some
> of the caches that would limit others to hiking longer
distances (or not
> doing them at all).
>
> I beleive a team can stay around town and eventually rack
up a few hundred
> caches in no time at all, but in the end, they will run
out of caches to
> find and will then have to head out of town for some of
the more difficult
> ones. Yea, new ones are popping up in urban areas every
other day. But,
> again.. the top teams will go out and do some wilderness
caches, then get
> the new urban ones and go right back out and do more
hiking/wilderness
> caches when there arent any more in the urban areas to do.
While the other
> guy is still just doing the urban caches and then sitting
around for another
> urban cache to pop up to go get.
>
> Now, if you want to arrange the rankings around, there are
multiple ways of
> doing so. I am not sure what all the different scores on
the rankings are...
> D score, T score, and score... but, if you click on each
of those, you will
> re-arrange the rankings again. I clicked on 'score' and
re-arranged the
> rankings and although there was some change, pretty much
the same teams are
> still on top.
>
> Perhaps Brian or Jason (snaptek dudes) can fill us in more
on what each
> 'score' means in the rankings.
>
> Scott
> Team Ropingthewind
>
>
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