RTW wrote: > I believe a team can stay around town and eventually rack up a few hundred > caches in no time at all, but in the end, they will run out of caches to > find and will then have to head out of town for some of the more difficult > ones. Yea, new ones are popping up in urban areas every other day. But, > again.. the top teams will go out and do some wilderness caches, then get > the new urban ones and go right back out and do more hiking/wilderness > caches when there arent any more in the urban areas to do. While the other > guy is still just doing the urban caches and then sitting around for another > urban cache to pop up to go get. Scott, you bring up a great point! One thing to note about the top teams is that they all have a high D+T average. Which shows how well rounded they are and why they are able to stay on top. An interesting plot would be a teams D+T average over time or D+T average versus number of caches found per month or week. -Rob (Wily Javelina) ----- Original Message ----- From: "RopingThe Wind" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 10:55 PM Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Team Rankings > >From: "Rob Brinkerhoff" > >Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com > >To: > >Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Team Rankings > >Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 21:11:09 -0700 > > > >Here is a question for the group. Why are teams ranked by > >the total number of caches found? Would not a more valid > >metric be Score (Totals of Difficulty and Terrain Ratings of > >Found and Hid, as defined by azgeocaching.com)? Suppose that > >there were 1005 locationless caches located in Arizona. If > >one logged all 1005 locationless caches (I am not ragging on > >locationless caches, just an example) and only those 1005 > >locationless caches they, per definition, would be the top > >AZ geocaching team. The top spot could feasibly be had > >without cracking open a single ammo can or peering into a > >still minty fresh altoids tin! Okay, now replace > >locationless with virtuals or 1/1 urbans, a more viable > >possibility. Does that really define the top caching team? > >Maybe it does. Clearly some folks prefer and/or are limited > >to urbans or ammo cans or locationless or puzzles or > >whatever. Don't get me wrong. I am very impressed with the > >routine 30+ finds in a day. I have yet to find more than 10 > >or 15 in a day. Though I have on several occasions spent a > >full and exhausting day only to find 5 or so caches. Also on > >several occasions I have spent days-on-end only to find one > >cache. > > > >Personally, I would like to see the top team ranked in terms > >of Score. I think that it gives a more well-rounded view of > >a teams ability. Of course that is only my opinion. What do > >the rest of you folks think? > > > >-Rob (Wily Javelina) > > > I would not disagree with Rob's comments. That would seem valid to me as > well. I too think that a well rounded score by result of doing the easy 1/1 > urban caches as well as the tough 4 and 4.5 terrain rated caches would > certainly prove the top team. > > However, on the other hand.. I also feel that to be a top team, you > eventually have to do them all. AZSaluki is currently the top team. If you > look at their list of found caches, they not only did the easy urban ones > (for the numbers), but also made the steep climbs up to some of the tougher > AZ caches. Wyle E didnt tend to do the most difficult of hiking caches, but > with a really good off road vehicle, he is always able to get back to some > of the caches that would limit others to hiking longer distances (or not > doing them at all). > > I beleive a team can stay around town and eventually rack up a few hundred > caches in no time at all, but in the end, they will run out of caches to > find and will then have to head out of town for some of the more difficult > ones. Yea, new ones are popping up in urban areas every other day. But, > again.. the top teams will go out and do some wilderness caches, then get > the new urban ones and go right back out and do more hiking/wilderness > caches when there arent any more in the urban areas to do. While the other > guy is still just doing the urban caches and then sitting around for another > urban cache to pop up to go get. > > Now, if you want to arrange the rankings around, there are multiple ways of > doing so. I am not sure what all the different scores on the rankings are... > D score, T score, and score... but, if you click on each of those, you will > re-arrange the rankings again. I clicked on 'score' and re-arranged the > rankings and although there was some change, pretty much the same teams are > still on top. > > Perhaps Brian or Jason (snaptek dudes) can fill us in more on what each > 'score' means in the rankings. > > Scott > Team Ropingthewind > > ____________________________________________________________ _____ > There are now three new levels of MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! Learn more. > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=hotmail/es2&ST=1 > > ____________________________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com > To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: > http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocach ing > > Arizona's Geocaching Resource > http://www.azgeocaching.com