RE: [Az-Geocaching] Madonna of the Trail, other issues

Re the locationless cache vs. your series, Brett: Points noted, all
valid. Thanks for that.

On the certificates: I've heard about 'em, never seen one, certainly in
Arizona. I don't have a problem with leaving them in, nobody's forced to
print one, but those who want it can have one ... Provided they've
visited the cache.

Steve
Team Tierra Buena

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> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 9:07 PM
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> Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Madonna of the Trail, other issues
>
>
> Hello again everyone.
> I guess I missed an issue this morning when I was writing my
> earlier post.
>
> Steve pointed out that there is a locationless cache dealing
> with the same monuments. I did not know it existed, and had
> never even looked at a locationless cache before today. I
> have been thinking about it all day, and have decided that
> even if I had known, I still would have gone ahead with my
> virtual caches. I have 2 reasons for this:
> #1) I view a monument cache as something everybody should
> visit and be allowed to log. A locationless cache sends the
> opposite signal -- sorry, but that monument was 'used up' by
> the one person who visited it in June, 2002. There are
> potentially thousands of cachers who may get the chance to
> log a virtual cache here. Each should be allowed his/her own
> moment of triumph, even if the cache is super easy.
> #2) If cache redundancy is a reason for archival of a cache,
> the locationless cache would be the one to be archived
> anyway. I set up the Madonna cache in Lexington 3 months
> before the locationless cache was created.
> #3) The issue will disappear in a couple months anyway,
> because each of the 12 monuments will be posted on the
> locationless cache and it will be closed.
>
> Now, I have a question for you all:
> The certificate of accomplishment is something I see in
> caches around my neck of the woods. I save them in my PC
> with my pictures. The password is intended to keep people
> from opening the document that have not visited the cache.
> The certificate does not, however, do ANYTHING for visit
> verification. Visit verification for this cache is now done
> either by picture or email. Is the purpose of the
> certificate too confusing? Some cachers around here like
> collecting them, but this cache is not in my locale. Do you
> think I should remove the certificate?
>
> -Brett
>
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