[Az-Geocaching] Come on now.
Brian Casteel
listserv@azgeocaching.com
Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:11:27 -0700
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How was that a personal attack? I stated things as I saw them. I =
compare it to people who don't vote, but are the first ones to stand up =
and protest who was elected or what ballot issues passed that they =
disagreed with. You've left the traditional geocaching sport and =
modified your participation to suit your desires/needs/interests. If =
you recall, I did voice a difference of opinion with Highpointer not too =
long ago. Not everyone is going to live in total harmony with one =
another, especially with hot-button topics like virtuals are to =
Geocaching, so you weren't singled out. I just happen to disagree with =
more of what you said and chose to expand my response to include not =
only the fact, but how I disagreed with it.
Now I know you don't log your finds online. You still go out and cache, =
which is cool. You have a personal logbook that you now track your =
finds in, which is cool. There are other cachers who choose to do this, =
which is fine. However you choose to play is your prerogative. I just =
don't understand why you're still so up in arms over this whole virtual =
thing when you've adapted to your own version of geocaching.
Brian
Team A.I.
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From: J H/TEAM 360=20
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 4:54 PM
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Come on now.
For someone who doesn't care about having their own caches anymore, =
I don't understand why you are complaining. Were you going to make a =
grand re-re-entrance into Geocaching as an active participant by logging =
finds online?
Why don't you save the drama? I am left wondering what is is that I =
did to you to make you so angry. Where is this personal attack coming =
from? By the way, I am not complaining, Brian. I can post an opinion, =
can't I? What, I can't state an opinion anymore without someone (you) =
jumping on me and saying I am complaining? Quit trying to make something =
out of nothing. This is an open forum and I will state what I want. I =
can do that without personally attacking you, too. I didn't see you =
jumping on Highpointer (Ken) for his similar views. What caused you to =
single out me? Leave the personal attacks out of it. And for your =
information, I don't log my finds online. I will play the game MY way, =
not yours. Got it? If you want to continue this on a one-on-one basis, =
just email me team360wwg@yahoo.com, and I will be more than happy to =
clear things up for you. This is not the place for attacks. Let's =
discuss the issues w ithout discussing the cachers, okay?
I understand why they are limiting the approvals of virtual caches. =
It's so every roadside sign/'landmark'/object doesn't turn into a =
virtual. =20
But having a cache every .1 miles is okay, right? Again, I said that =
the Virtual should have some MERIT to it.=20
As I recall, those in the forums also believed that a micro would =
be better-suited for one sign in particular that looks strikingly =
similar to the shape of the State of Nevada.
Again, this is no longer about just that particular micro. Get past =
it, I did, and it's a dead issue.
GC.com is making attempts at returning to their roots, which are =
PHYSICAL caches with PAPER logs to sign. =20
So no more "We strongly encourage variations on the game" thinking =
from GC.com? It would appear that GC.com is saying one thing, and doing =
another.=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>How was that a personal attack? I =
stated=20
things as I saw them. I compare it to people who don't vote, =
but are=20
the first ones to stand up and protest who was elected or what ballot =
issues=20
passed that they disagreed with. You've left the traditional =
geocaching=20
sport and modified your participation to suit your=20
desires/needs/interests. If you recall, I did voice a difference =
of=20
opinion with Highpointer not too long ago. Not everyone is going =
to live=20
in total harmony with one another, especially with hot-button topics =
like=20
virtuals are to Geocaching, so you weren't singled out. I just =
happen to=20
disagree with more of what you said and chose to expand my response to =
include=20
not only the fact, but how I disagreed with it.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now I know you don't log your finds =
online. =20
You still go out and cache, which is cool. You have a personal =
logbook=20
that you now track your finds in, which is cool. There are other =
cachers=20
who choose to do this, which is fine. However you choose to play =
is your=20
prerogative. I just don't understand why you're still so up in =
arms over=20
this whole virtual thing when you've adapted to your own version of=20
geocaching.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian<BR>Team A.I.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=3Dteam360wwg@yahoo.com href=3D"mailto:team360wwg@yahoo.com">J =
H/TEAM=20
360</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 30, =
2003 4:54=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Az-Geocaching] Come =
on=20
now.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>For someone who doesn't care about having =
their own=20
caches anymore, I don't understand why you are complaining. =
Were you=20
going to make a grand re-re-entrance into Geocaching as an active=20
participant by logging finds online?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#ff0000>Why don't you save the drama? I am left =
wondering=20
what is is that I did to you to make you so angry. Where is this =
personal=20
attack coming from? By the way, I am not complaining, Brian. I can =
post an=20
opinion, can't I? What, I can't state an opinion anymore without =
someone=20
(you) jumping on me and saying I am complaining? Quit trying to make =
something out of nothing. This is an open forum and I will state =
what I=20
want. I can do that without personally attacking you, too. I didn't =
see you=20
jumping on Highpointer (Ken) for his similar views. What caused you =
to=20
single out me? Leave the personal attacks out of it. And for your=20
information, I don't log my finds online. I will play the game MY =
way, not=20
yours. Got it? If you want to continue this on a one-on-one basis, =
just=20
email me <A =
href=3D"mailto:team360wwg@yahoo.com">team360wwg@yahoo.com</A>, and=20
I will be more than happy to clear things up for you. This is not =
the place=20
for attacks. Let's discuss the issues w ithout discussing the =
cachers,=20
okay?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I understand why they are limiting the =
approvals of=20
virtual caches. It's so every roadside sign/'landmark'/object =
doesn't=20
turn into a virtual. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#ff0000><STRONG>But having a cache =
every .1=20
miles is okay, right? Again, I said that the Virtual should have =
some MERIT=20
to it. </STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> As I recall, those in the =
forums also=20
believed that a micro would be better-suited for one sign in =
particular that=20
looks strikingly similar to the shape of the State of Nevada.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#ff0000>Again, this is no longer about =
just that=20
particular micro. Get past it, I did, and it's a dead=20
issue.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><BR>GC.com is making attempts at returning to their roots, =
which are=20
PHYSICAL caches with PAPER logs to sign. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#ff0000>So no more "We strongly encourage =
variations on the game" thinking from GC.com? It would appear that =
GC.com is=20
saying one thing, and doing another. </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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