[Az-Geocaching] Another cache bites the dust

Gale sonoralovesmommy at yahoo.com
Mon Nov 17 17:31:58 MST 2008


 13-1601.  Definitions
      In this chapter, unless the context otherwise requires:
      1.  "Damaging" means "damage" as defined in section 13-1701.
      2.  "Defacing" means any unnecessary act of substantially marring any surface or
 place, by any means, or any act of putting up, affixing, fastening, printing, or painting
 any notice upon any structure, without permission from the owner.
      3.  "Litter" includes any rubbish, refuse, waste material, offal, paper, glass,
 cans, bottles, organic or inorganic trash, debris, filthy or odoriferous objects, dead
 animals, or any foreign substance of whatever kind or description, including junked or
 abandoned vehicles, whether or not any of these items are of value.
      4.  "Property of another" means property in which any person other than the
 defendant has an interest, including community property and other property in which the
 defendant also has an interest.
      5.  "Tamper" means any act of interference.
      6.  "Utility" means any enterprise, public or private, which provides gas, electric,
 steam, water, sewer or communications services, as well as any common carrier on land,
 rail, sea or air.


Tsegi Mike and Desert Viking Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
  On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
  "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!" Rudyard Kipling ,   The Explorer  1898

--- On Mon, 11/17/08, Richard Hansen <richard.hansen at dos2unix.net> wrote:
From: Richard Hansen <richard.hansen at dos2unix.net>
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Another cache bites the dust
To: "listserv at azgeocaching.com" <listserv at azgeocaching.com>
Date: Monday, November 17, 2008, 4:03 PM

I agree.

Reading what Regan has posted, a geocache does not seem to fall in any category
... though "litter" would need a definition.



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Richard Hansen
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[az-geocaching-bounces at listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Randy Kinkel
[ark45 at cox.net]
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 4:03 PM
To: listserv at azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Another cache bites the dust

most caches do not fit the "destructive or injurious material" test.
IMO.  but I'm no lawyer.

mozartman
----- Original Message -----
From: Regan Smith<mailto:evilfish at cox.net>
To: listserv at azgeocaching.com<mailto:listserv at azgeocaching.com>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Another cache bites the dust

13-1603. Criminal littering or polluting; classification

A. A person commits criminal littering or polluting if such person without
lawful authority does any of the following:

1. Throws, places, drops or permits to be dropped on public property or
property of another which is not a lawful dump any litter, destructive or
injurious material which he does not immediately remove.

2. Discharges or permits to be discharged any sewage, oil products or other
harmful substances into any waters or onto any shorelines within the state.

3. Dumps any earth, soil, stones, ores or minerals on any land.

B. Criminal littering or polluting is punished as follows:

1. A class 6 felony if a knowing violation of subsection A in which the amount
of litter or other prohibited material or substance exceeds three hundred pounds
in weight or one hundred cubic feet in volume or is done in any quantity for a
commercial purpose.

2. A class 1 misdemeanor if the act is not punishable under paragraph 1 of this
subsection and involves placing any destructive or injurious material on or
within fifty feet of a highway, beach or shoreline of any body of water used by
the public.

3. A class 2 misdemeanor if not punishable under paragraph 1 or 2 of this
subsection.


Jim Scotti wrote:

So, has anyone looked up the A.R.S. code listed on the stickers?  I'd be
curious to hear what it has to say exactly and how it might be interpretted
in these two cases.

Jim.

On Mon, 17 Nov 2008, Gale wrote:



Link to cache log

Looks like the geocaching cop/pirate has hit another cache, this one in
Mesa.

I do not think its real cops. Anyone with real authority would have gone
directly to geocaching website and contacted them. This is just someone who
printed up stickers and is throwing his or her weight around. Anyone have
legal training or knows a lawyer? Perhaps we can get a legal opinion on
this.

Gale aka Desert Viking



I'm not normally a religious man, but if you're up there, save me,
Superman! - Homer Simpson
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Lunar & Planetary Laboratory
University of Arizona
Tucson, AZ 85721 USA                 http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/
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