[Az-Geocaching] so much for trying to preserve a cache

Fri Sep 28 07:47:15 MST 2007

We went out to Tonopah last w/e and logged a couple of the old Puz-zel caches--those were certainly worth retaining for the container's sake. Coyote 1 and 2 were fantastic caches, too--extraordinary sites. Don't know if they are both still there.
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  From: AZcachemeister 
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  Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 5:30 AM
  Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] so much for trying to preserve a cache

  We could have seen this coming back when Petite Elite attempted to adopt All Aboard Gone up in Prescott. I can't remember if the original owner was out of contact, but the logic was that the container was missing, so the cache could only be un-archived to the original owner, and not an adoptee.
  I read something in the forums that hinted that archived caches will be taken off the maps soon, so the only way you would be able to 'find' them would be by knowing the waypoint ID, or perhaps by looking at someones found list.
  Apparently 'cache permanence' is falling by the wayside, so stock up on 'Gladware' and just archive the cache and 'hide' a new one when the container disintegrates.

  Richard Daines wrote: 
    There have been several conversations on the forum about just this topic and as predicted, this is the response.  GC seems to lean to archiving rather that adoption if the original owner doesn't get involved.  There is a similar cache here in Missouri that appears to have been quietly adopted but is Disabled none the less.  Unless the original owner speaks up, I bet this one will be Disabled too regardless of it condition.  I guess I can see the point that a cache needs an owner, a point of contact.  Having to apply for a new cache at the location 
    seems extreme but this is how GC tries to have control.

    On 9/28/07, Jason Poulter <jason at snaptek.com> wrote: 
      Thats a bunch of crap....

      I think I will get around to making a section on the azgeocaching site
      were we can list our own caches and thus keep caches like this alive and
      all nazi tactics at gc can be circumnavigated....

      jason
      snaptek

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