[Az-Geocaching] so much for trying to preserve a cache

[AZcachemeister]

We could have seen this coming back when Petite Elite attempted to adopt 
All Aboard Gone up in Prescott. I can't remember if the original owner 
was out of contact, but the logic was that the container was missing, so 
the cache could only be un-archived to the original owner, and not an 
adoptee.
I read something in the forums that hinted that archived caches will be 
taken off the maps soon, so the only way you would be able to 'find' 
them would be by knowing the waypoint ID, or perhaps by looking at 
someones found list.
Apparently 'cache permanence' is falling by the wayside, so stock up on 
'Gladware' and just archive the cache and 'hide' a new one when the 
container disintegrates.

Richard Daines wrote:
> There have been several conversations on the forum about just this 
> topic and as predicted, this is the response.  GC seems to lean to 
> archiving rather that adoption if the original owner doesn't get 
> involved.  There is a similar cache here in Missouri that appears to 
> have been quietly adopted but is Disabled none the less.  Unless the 
> original owner speaks up, I bet this one will be Disabled too 
> regardless of it condition.  I guess I can see the point that a cache 
> needs an owner, a point of contact.  Having to apply for a new cache 
> at the location
> seems extreme but this is how GC tries to have control.
>
>  
> On 9/28/07, *Jason Poulter* <jason at snaptek.com 
> <mailto:jason at snaptek.com>> wrote:
>
>     Thats a bunch of crap....
>
>     I think I will get around to making a section on the azgeocaching site
>     were we can list our own caches and thus keep caches like this
>     alive and
>     all nazi tactics at gc can be circumnavigated....
>
>     jason
>     snaptek
>
>     Gale wrote:
>     > I feel quite badly about this. I tried to preserve an old cache,
>     and
>     > this is what happens. Link here.
>     >
>     <http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=52232ff3-f2f0-463f-8829-47d51b995b9c
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>     >
>     >
>     > Tsegi Mike and Desert Viking
>     >
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>     >   On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
>     > "Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the
>     Ranges --
>     >   "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"
>     >
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>     >
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