[Az-Geocaching] READ THIS CACHE SITE -

Mon Apr 18 12:27:37 MST 2005

Right, and I'm just pointing out that he isn't the one slamming other
people, telling people to get the heck out of here, etc.  Heck, he's pretty
much dropped out of sight as far as azgeocaching.com goes.

This lynch mob of a group (well, not everyone) are the ones back with
pitchforks and torches.

So again (quoted for clarity):

And this is your concern in what way? 
Were any of the TBs in question yours? 
Did the owners contact you and ask you to get involved? 

LazyK - Dan

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[mailto:az-geocaching-bounces at listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Gale
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 11:50 AM
To: listserv at azgeocaching.com
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] READ THIS CACHE SITE -

Actually one long time cacher was attacked by highpointer in a cache log on
another cache. He publically blasted them for a tb placement, in his role as
self appointed tb police. I personally felt his public attack/ attempt at
humiliation was completely uncalled for, especially since he publically
announced on the listserv that same day that he didnt do things like that
and would refrain from it in the future. 

"Koch, Dan" <Dan.Koch at Eclipsys.com> wrote: 

And now I ask you...and I quote:

And this is your concern in what way? 
Were any of the TBs in question yours? 
Did the owners contact you and ask you to get involved? 

At least Highpointer is just playing the game, and not attacking anyone and
everyone that doesn't play the same way. 

LazyK - Dan

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[mailto:az-geocaching-bounces at listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of
AZcachemeister
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 8:20 PM
To: listserv at azgeocaching.com; ShadowAce
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] READ THIS CACHE SITE -

ShadowAce wrote: 
Here is his reasons:
- The travel bugs that I removed from this cache had been in the cache
an average of 25 days each, and each of these travel bugs had been
passed up by an average of 10 geocaching teams before I grabbed them.
I took five travel bugs, but I immediately moved two of them to nearby
caches later in the same day. I took pictures of those travel bugs and
uploaded them to both my cache and travel bug log entries.

Mr. Lowpointer:
And this is your concern in what way? 
Were any of the TBs in question yours? 
Did the owners contact you and ask you to get involved? 

- There is no need for a travel bug hotel in this location. There are
many geocaches nearby with regular-sized containers. This is not in
the middle of the city but is near the edge of Tonto National Forest.
There are over 50 caches within a five-mile radius of this location,
and most of these caches have containers that are large enough to fit
most travel bugs. It may take a little more effort, but if one has
multiple travel bugs, isn't it better to put them in a variety of
different caches rather than one single cache?

Mr. Lowpointer:
Perhaps there is no need for any Travel Bug Hotels, anywhere.
The owner has chosen to call it a Travel Bug Hotel, and cachers have chosen
to leave Travel Bugs in it.
Certainly made things convenient for you, didn't it?

- This cache is exposed and is very close to a street corner. The
cache site is close enough to be seen by motorists who are stopped at
the stop sign. Whenever I come here, I see new litter desosited in the
area, and usually I pick some of it up. There is good chance that this
cache could be found accidentally by a non-geocacher, who would likely
take the cache and/or it contents, especially since the contents
contain a large variety of music and computer CDs which is more
valuable than the contents of most caches. I do not like to put travel
bugs in caches that I feel are too exposed.

Mr. Lowpointer:
If you don't like the cache, or the location, STAY AWAY.
Many caches in less accessible areas have come up missing, the contents are
irrelevant.
Not wanting to put a Travel Bug in does not give you the right to remove
them all.

- The geocacher who commented on what I did on the cache page has
nearly 1,000 cache findings, but has more than 2,000 travel bug
findings. I, on the other hand, have close to 1,600 cache findings,
but I have less than 400 travel bug finds. Enough said.

Mr. Lowpointer:
What the hell does MaxB's find count and Travel Bug count (or how they
compare to yours) have to do with ANYTHING?
Max B seems to be interested in TRADING Travel Bugs. If he takes three, he
leaves three. Thus assuring others will at least have some Travel Bugs
available if that's what they're after.

Now enough HAS been said.

Ken Akerman (a.k.a. Highpointer)
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