[Az-Geocaching] Another cacher finds body near Las Vegas
Brian - Team A.I.
listserv@azgeocaching.com
Wed, 24 Mar 2004 17:27:31 -0700
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MCSO has a more direct need to know, and it seems clear that they were =
trained in GPS technology. I'm actually glad they do understand it. =
Some of the field units (deputies, not SAR) are starting to get their =
own units for collision investigation purposes. Local PDs don't have =
such a need, as street addresses work perfectly well for them. DPS =
should use them, but currently doesn't. However, in the new CAD system =
we're getting next month, GPS info is used, but we're still not being =
trained on it. Go figure. Usually, if it isn't asphalt, it isn't ours. =
:/ When sending our Ranger helicopters out on LE or SAR missions, they =
ask for coordinates. If the local PD can't provide them (usually the =
case), I find it for them to make the job easier for my guys. But as I =
said before, most of the people in the center don't understand the =
technology, and give me the "get a life" speech when I tell them about =
what I do on my days off (I'm in better shape than most of them, so go =
figure). I think more than anything, they're afraid of learning it =
because it sounds complicated. I should suggest to my supervisor about =
teaching a class on GPS technology and how to find where the coordinates =
point.
Brian
Team A.I.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: RAND HARDIN=20
To: AZ-Geocaching=20
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Another cacher finds body near Las Vegas
Jake asked about whether law enforcement would understand waypoints:
About a year ago I found a newly stolen vehicle abandoned in Bulldog =
Canyon. I called the sheriffs dept and gave them the necessary =
information about the vehicle and location. I then asked the =
dispatcher, if I gave her coordinates to the vehicle if that would help. =
She said: "definitely!" She told me that their search and rescue units =
are equipped with GPSrs. I imagine if we discover something anywhere =
"off trail" that search and rescue would be notified. I don't know =
about local police though, but I would imagine that police helicopters =
would be equipped.=20
Rand (RandMan)
----- Original Message -----
From: insomniak@cox.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 3:47 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Another cacher finds body near Las Vegas
Perhaps we should consider posting instructions on what to do when =
coming across someone's unfortunate demise.
I'm kinda curious my self as to what are the proper steps to help =
out law enforcement. =20
Is it necessary to contact "9-1-1" or would it be more appropriate =
to contant a non-emergency number?
Which agency to do contact when you are (insert your favorite =
caching location here.)?
If you are out of range for your cell phone to work, how do you go =
about contacting law enforcment?=20
Will dispatchers be able to understand you giving them waypoint =
information?
There are other questions I can't think of now, but I'm sure I will =
later.
I think Brian of Team A.I. (my team) and Trisha would probably have =
alot of information. It only seems likely that more cachers will find =
these types of things, and knowing what to do ahead of time.
Jake - Team A.I. =20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>MCSO has a more direct need to know, and it =
seems clear=20
that they were trained in GPS technology. I'm actually glad they =
do=20
understand it. Some of the field units (deputies, not =
SAR) are=20
starting to get their own units for collision investigation =
purposes. =20
Local PDs don't have such a need, as street addresses work perfectly =
well for=20
them. DPS should use them, but currently doesn't. However, =
in the=20
new CAD system we're getting next month, GPS info is used, but we're =
still not=20
being trained on it. Go figure. Usually, if it isn't =
asphalt, it=20
isn't ours. :/ When sending our Ranger helicopters out on LE =
or SAR=20
missions, they ask for coordinates. If the local PD can't provide =
them=20
(usually the case), I find it for them to make the job easier for my =
guys. =20
But as I said before, most of the people in the center don't understand =
the=20
technology, and give me the "get a life" speech when I tell them about =
what I do=20
on my days off (I'm in better shape than most of them, so go =
figure)</FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial>. I think more than anything, they're afraid of =
learning it=20
because it sounds complicated. I should suggest to my supervisor =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Brian</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Team A.I.</FONT></DIV>
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4:37=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] =
Another=20
cacher finds body near Las Vegas</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><U>Jake asked about whether law enforcement would understand=20
waypoints:</U></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>About a year ago I found a newly stolen vehicle abandoned in =
Bulldog=20
Canyon. I called the sheriffs dept and gave them the necessary=20
information about the vehicle and location. I then asked the =
dispatcher,=20
if I gave her coordinates to the vehicle if that would help. She =
said:=20
"definitely!" She told me that their <EM>search and=20
rescue</EM> units <U>are</U> equipped with GPSrs. I imagine if =
we=20
discover something anywhere "off trail" that <EM>search and</EM>=20
<EM>rescue</EM> would be notified. I don't know about local =
police=20
though, but I would imagine that police helicopters would be=20
equipped. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Rand (RandMan)</DIV>
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insomniak@cox.net</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 24, =
2004 3:47=20
PM</DIV>
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listserv@azgeocaching.com</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Az-Geocaching] =
Another cacher=20
finds body near Las Vegas</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>Perhaps we should consider posting instructions on =
what to=20
do when coming across someone's unfortunate demise.<BR><BR>I'm kinda =
curious=20
my self as to what are the proper steps to help out law =
enforcement. =20
<BR><BR>Is it necessary to contact "9-1-1" or would it be more =
appropriate=20
to contant a non-emergency number?<BR><BR>Which agency to do contact =
when=20
you are (insert your favorite caching location here.)?<BR><BR>If you =
are out=20
of range for your cell phone to work, how do you go about contacting =
law=20
enforcment? <BR><BR><STRONG><U>Will dispatchers be able to =
understand you=20
giving them waypoint information?<BR></U></STRONG><BR>There are =
other=20
questions I can't think of now, but I'm sure I will later.<BR><BR>I =
think=20
Brian of Team A.I. (my team) and Trisha would probably have alot of=20
information. It only seems likely that more cachers will find =
these=20
types of things, and knowing what to do ahead of time.<BR><BR>Jake - =
Team=20
A.I. <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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