[Az-Geocaching] forwarded forum post about micro/urban caches.. from Daniel J. Karam

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Wed, 4 Aug 2004 05:21:14 -0700 (PDT)


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"Of course, if you live in a strictly urban setting like New York City, you 
are probably resigned to microcaches, but for the majority of us with many 
parks and acres of forests around, we don't have an excuse.
 
Next time you place a cache......let's get back to what made us want to go 
geocaching in the first place."
 
I had to respond to this one. 
 
I dont have a 4 wheel drive. My back and hip injury is severe enough that going out for a long drive and on a back road would preclude me from any activity for awhile, not to mention being on pain meds. I am happy that most of you can go on and enjoy these caches. My enjoyment in geocaching comes mainly from those "despised" urban caches. 
 
This article was written by someone who wants to return to the days where only physically fit people have access to caches. Like it or not, other people have become geocachers. Physically unfit people have discovered an activity they can enjoy. I dont see why both cache types cant co-exist? Ive seen some nice rural caches, as well as junky ones. Same with urban caches. What made me get into geocaching was the joy of having an activity that I could enjoy without suffering discomfort, of still having a reason to get outside and enjoy the day. The quote from the article reflects a mentality that little or no urban caches should exist. Since Scott agrees with this article, Im guessing that he doesnt think they should exist, or that more rural caches should be placed. Please dont take this the wrong way Scott, but you do realize that instead of complaining about the lack of rural caches and over abundance of urban micros...that maybe you can place a few yourself? Personally I happen to
 like urban microcaches. I like the challenge.
 
"Again, lately I have really been enjoying the occasional cache I have found 
as I have been really only doing wilderness hiking caches around Sedona. 
They are my kind of fun." 
 
Thats great Scott, but it is not my idea of fun. Feel free to play your way. I cant do those kinds of caches. Ever since falling down stairs 12 yrs ago, I have not had the mobility I used to have. I would like to continue to play the game my way without feeling like an unwelcome outsider. I dont complain about all the 4 wheel drive caches or the mountaintop caches that I can never get to. Please stop complaining about the caches I can enjoy. Geocaching should be a game for all kinds of people.

		
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000bf>"Of course, if you live in a strictly urban setting like New York City, you <BR>are probably resigned to microcaches, but for the majority of us with many <BR>parks and acres of forests around, we don't have an excuse.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000bf>Next time you place a cache......let's get back to what made us want to go <BR>geocaching in the first place</FONT>."</DIV>
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<DIV>I had to respond to this one. </DIV>
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<DIV>I dont have a 4 wheel drive. My back and hip injury is severe enough that going out for a long drive and on a back road would preclude me from any activity for awhile, not to mention being on pain meds. I am happy that most of you can go on and enjoy these caches. My&nbsp;enjoyment in geocaching comes mainly&nbsp;from those "despised" urban caches. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>This article was written by someone who wants to return to the days where only physically fit people have access to caches. Like it or not, other people have become geocachers. Physically unfit people have discovered an activity they can enjoy. I dont see why both cache types cant co-exist?&nbsp;Ive seen some nice rural caches, as well as junky ones. Same with urban caches.&nbsp;What made me get into geocaching was the joy of having an activity that I could enjoy without suffering discomfort, of still having a reason to get outside and enjoy the day. The quote from the article&nbsp;reflects a mentality that&nbsp;little or no&nbsp;urban caches should exist. Since Scott agrees with this article, Im guessing that he doesnt think they should exist, or that more rural caches should be placed. Please dont take this the wrong way Scott, but you do realize that instead of complaining about the lack of rural caches and over abundance of urban micros...that maybe you can place a few
 yourself? Personally I happen to like urban microcaches. I like the challenge.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000bf>"Again, lately I have really been enjoying the occasional cache I have found <BR>as I have been really only doing wilderness hiking caches around Sedona. <BR>They are my kind of fun." </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#6000bf></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Thats great Scott, but it is not my idea of fun. Feel free to play your way.&nbsp;I cant do those kinds of caches. Ever since falling down stairs 12 yrs ago, I have not had the mobility I used to have. I would like to continue to play the game my way without feeling like an unwelcome outsider. I dont complain about all the 4 wheel drive caches or the mountaintop caches that I can never get to. Please stop complaining about the caches I can enjoy. Geocaching should be a game for all kinds of people.</DIV><p>
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