[Az-Geocaching] Another cacher finds body near Las Vegas
Mark Heitowit
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Fri, 02 Apr 2004 04:56:47 -0700
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Trisha wrote:
>I am finally getting to these OH SO MANY emails in my inbox...
>
>Yes, don't disturb the scene, except to ascertain if the person is
>alive, if they are not obviously dead. (It is usually quite obvious).
>If you do approach a body to see if they are alive, approach from one
>direction, do not walk around, do not touch anything except one place
>on the skin (pulse) and retreat in your own footsteps. Then remember
>to tell the law enforcement which footprints are yours and why.
>
>Also remember to be VERY careful, if the person is simply asleep and
>you startle them you are likely to get hurt. Yell at them from about
>10 feet away first.
>
>Keep in mind that when you call 9-1-1 from a cell phone, you may be
>talking to someone in Kansas or someplace. You need to ask to be
>connected to (your local county sheriff) or at least tell the operator
>EXACTLY where you are, including state.
>
>If you know the number for your local agency, call that instead of
>911, unless the person is alive.
>
>Most dispatchers won't understand coordinates but they will write them
>down if you tell them exactly what to write. Try to give road numbers
>and distance from known points as well.
>
>If you are not in cell-phone range, take the coordinates of the body,
>drive/walk out to where your cell phone works and call it in. Some
>agencies may suspect you so be prepared to be questioned.
>
>This happens alot up here, esp near Bloody Basin and north of
>Wickenburg. Seems the bad guys drive just far enough outside of Phx
>before dumping the bodies. Our forest deputies always have a "latest
>story" of a dead body found. Sad.
>
>Those 2 kids found shot off Bloody Basin road (in their truck) was so
>sad. I was involved in the evidence line search on one day with other
>Posse and SAR members.
>
>I think I answered everything?
>
>Trisha "Lightning"
>Prescott
>www.ycjp.org
>
>
>On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 15:44:47 -0700, "Andrew Ayre" wrote:
>
>
>
>>Imagine not dialing 911 when the person you thought was dead, wasn't
>>quite
>>dead! I would always dial 911.
>>
>>Andy
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
>>[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of
>>insomniak@cox.net
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 3:42 PM
>>To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
>>Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Another cacher finds body near Las Vegas
>>
>>
>>Perhaps we should consider posting instructions on what to do when
>>coming
>>across someone's unfortunate demise.
>>
>>I'm kinda curious my self as to what are the proper steps to help out
>>law
>>enforcement.
>>
>>Is it necessary to contact "9-1-1" or would it be more appropriate to
>>contant a non-emergency number?
>>
>>Which agency to do contact when you are (insert your favorite caching
>>location here.)?
>>
>>If you are out of range for your cell phone to work, how do you go
>>about
>>contacting law enforcment?
>>
>>Will dispatchers be able to understand you giving them waypoint
>>information?
>>
>>There are other questions I can't think of now, but I'm sure I will
>>later.
>>
>>I think Brian of Team A.I. (my team) and Trisha would probably have
>>alot of
>>information. It only seems likely that more cachers will find these
>>types
>>of things, and knowing what to do ahead of time.
>>
>>Jake - Team A.I.
>>
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Trisha wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">I am finally getting to these OH SO MANY emails in my inbox...
Yes, don't disturb the scene, except to ascertain if the person is
alive, if they are not obviously dead. (It is usually quite obvious).
If you do approach a body to see if they are alive, approach from one
direction, do not walk around, do not touch anything except one place
on the skin (pulse) and retreat in your own footsteps. Then remember
to tell the law enforcement which footprints are yours and why.
Also remember to be VERY careful, if the person is simply asleep and
you startle them you are likely to get hurt. Yell at them from about
10 feet away first.
Keep in mind that when you call 9-1-1 from a cell phone, you may be
talking to someone in Kansas or someplace. You need to ask to be
connected to (your local county sheriff) or at least tell the operator
EXACTLY where you are, including state.
If you know the number for your local agency, call that instead of
911, unless the person is alive.
Most dispatchers won't understand coordinates but they will write them
down if you tell them exactly what to write. Try to give road numbers
and distance from known points as well.
If you are not in cell-phone range, take the coordinates of the body,
drive/walk out to where your cell phone works and call it in. Some
agencies may suspect you so be prepared to be questioned.
This happens alot up here, esp near Bloody Basin and north of
Wickenburg. Seems the bad guys drive just far enough outside of Phx
before dumping the bodies. Our forest deputies always have a "latest
story" of a dead body found. Sad.
Those 2 kids found shot off Bloody Basin road (in their truck) was so
sad. I was involved in the evidence line search on one day with other
Posse and SAR members.
I think I answered everything?
Trisha "Lightning"
Prescott
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.ycjp.org">www.ycjp.org</a>
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 15:44:47 -0700, "Andrew Ayre" wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Imagine not dialing 911 when the person you thought was dead, wasn't
quite
dead! I would always dial 911.
Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com">az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com">mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com</a>]On Behalf Of
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:insomniak@cox.net">insomniak@cox.net</a>
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 3:42 PM
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</a>
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Another cacher finds body near Las Vegas
Perhaps we should consider posting instructions on what to do when
coming
across someone's unfortunate demise.
I'm kinda curious my self as to what are the proper steps to help out
law
enforcement.
Is it necessary to contact "9-1-1" or would it be more appropriate to
contant a non-emergency number?
Which agency to do contact when you are (insert your favorite caching
location here.)?
If you are out of range for your cell phone to work, how do you go
about
contacting law enforcment?
Will dispatchers be able to understand you giving them waypoint
information?
There are other questions I can't think of now, but I'm sure I will
later.
I think Brian of Team A.I. (my team) and Trisha would probably have
alot of
information. It only seems likely that more cachers will find these
types
of things, and knowing what to do ahead of time.
Jake - Team A.I.
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