[Az-Geocaching] Cache Pirate on the loose: Here is how I will protect my caches

Team Evil Fish listserv@azgeocaching.com
Sun, 4 May 2003 13:22:33 -0700


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Messagewhen was it? as I really didn't get going until August=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Ken=20
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 1:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Cache Pirate on the loose: Here is how I =
will protect my caches


  I don't remember seeing either of you when I was at the land managers =
meeting last year. I make every attempt to abide by the rules and have =
been very active in attempting to make this hobby acceptable.

  Ken
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Team Evil Fish=20
    To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
    Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 12:52 PM
    Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Cache Pirate on the loose: Here is how =
I will protect my caches


    yeah Well Spoken ChacheLess, I guess if we as established cachers =
are unable to abide by ALL the rules why should a new cacher do the =
same.


      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Bill Tomlinson=20
      To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
      Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 12:24 PM
      Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Cache Pirate on the loose: Here is =
how I will protect my caches


      Ken,

      Am I understanding correctly that you will be making your caches =
members only to avoid land managers and the policies they have in place?

      CacheLess
        -----Original Message-----
        From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com =
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Ken
        Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 12:18 PM
        To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
        Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Cache Pirate on the loose: Here is =
how I will protect my caches


        I have decided to do the same. With all the land managers out =
grabbing my caches and now this bozo on the loose it is becoming to =
frustrating.

        Ken
        WhereRwee?
          ----- Original Message -----=20
          From: Ken Akerman=20
          To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
          Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 11:33 AM
          Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Cache Pirate on the loose: Here is =
how I will protect my caches


          To Arizona Geocachers,

          It's sad to see that there apparently is a cache pirate on the =
loose.  I thought his entries were a joke, because he stated that he was =
at two caches on Saturday that I visited in the morning (neither one was =
plundered at that time), but when I checked the log for Pushing Tin near =
Sky Harbor International Airport, I read that Azcachmeister had visited =
the cache this morning and reported that it indeed had been plundered.

          I am heading out to the Diamondbacks game in a short time, so =
on the way there I will stop at a cache that I visit frequently, Have =
Bug, Will Travel.  I stopped there Saturday morning to get the only =
travel bug in it and I moved the travel bug to another cache in Pinal =
County later that day.  Fortunately, if the pirate did clean out this =
cache, there were no travel bugs in it.

          In order to protect my traditional caches, I have made them =
all Members Only. This is to protect my own caches from plundering, as =
it appears the Cache Pirate is not a Geocaching.com Premium Member.  I =
recommend that all cachers make your caches Members Only (and become a =
Premium Member if you are not a member) now to protect them from =
plundering.  (Virtual caches cannot be plundered, so those are open to =
all).

          Since there are some new cachers who perhaps aren't sure if =
they want to pay the $30 annual fee to become a Premium Member, here is =
what I will do for you.  If you want to find one of my Members Only =
caches, and you are not yet a Premium Member and have been an active =
geocacher for less than three months with fewer than 50 cache findings, =
then you could find one of my caches without becoming a Premium Member.  =
To do this, send me an e-mail explaining what cache you would like to =
find, and I will respond with an e-mail listing the coordinates and a =
brief description.  You could find the cache and sign the logbook in the =
cache, but you won't be able to log your finding on Geocaching.com until =
you become a Premium Member.

          This is available to new geocachers only (and obviously does =
not apply to the Cache Pirate).  I hope this new personal policy is =
agreeable to all, and in my opinion will encourage Geocachers to become =
Premium Members without restricting access to geocaching by newcomers.

          Ken Akerman (a.k.a. Highpointer)


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>when was it? as I really didn't get =
going until=20
August </FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3Dkenh199@cox.net href=3D"mailto:kenh199@cox.net">Ken</A> =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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  =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 04, 2003 1:01 =
PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] =
Cache Pirate=20
  on the loose: Here is how I will protect my caches</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I don't remember seeing either of you =
when I was=20
  at the land managers meeting last year. I make every attempt to abide =
by the=20
  rules and have been very active in attempting to make this hobby=20
  acceptable.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ken</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dbuggers@mindspring.com =
href=3D"mailto:buggers@mindspring.com">Team=20
    Evil Fish</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A> =
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 04, 2003 =
12:52=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] =
Cache=20
    Pirate on the loose: Here is how I will protect my caches</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>yeah Well Spoken ChacheLess, I =
guess if we as=20
    established cachers are unable to abide by ALL the rules why should =
a new=20
    cacher do the same.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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      <DIV=20
      style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A title=3Dbilltomlinson@qwest.net=20
      href=3D"mailto:billtomlinson@qwest.net">Bill Tomlinson</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
      title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A>=20
      </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 04, 2003 =
12:24=20
      PM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
[Az-Geocaching] Cache=20
      Pirate on the loose: Here is how I will protect my caches</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D666292319-04052003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
      size=3D2>Ken,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D666292319-04052003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
      size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D666292319-04052003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
      size=3D2>Am I understanding correctly that you will be making your =
caches=20
      members only to avoid land managers and the policies they have in=20
      place?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D666292319-04052003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
      size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D666292319-04052003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
      size=3D2>CacheLess</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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        <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT=20
        face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original =
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com">az-geocachi=
ng-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com</A>=20
        [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] <B>On =
Behalf Of=20
        </B>Ken<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 04, 2003 12:18 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
        listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] =
Cache=20
        Pirate on the loose: Here is how I will protect my=20
        caches<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have decided to do the same. =
With all the=20
        land managers out grabbing my caches and now this bozo on the =
loose it=20
        is becoming to frustrating.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ken</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>WhereRwee?</FONT></DIV>
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          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
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          <DIV=20
          style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
          <A title=3Dken@highpointer.com =
href=3D"mailto:ken@highpointer.com">Ken=20
          Akerman</A> </DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
          title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
          =
href=3D"mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A>=20
          </DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 04, =
2003 11:33=20
          AM</DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> =
[Az-Geocaching] Cache=20
          Pirate on the loose: Here is how I will protect my =
caches</DIV>
          <DIV><BR></DIV>
          <DIV>To Arizona Geocachers,</DIV>
          <DIV><BR>It's sad to see that there apparently is a <A=20
          =
href=3D"http://www.geocaching.com/profile/default.asp?A=3D121309">cache=20
          pirate </A>on the loose.&nbsp; I thought his entries were a =
joke,=20
          because he stated that he was at two caches on Saturday that I =
visited=20
          in the morning (neither one was plundered at that time), but =
when I=20
          checked the log for <A=20
          =
href=3D"http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=3D67154">Pus=
hing=20
          Tin</A> near Sky Harbor International Airport, I read that <A=20
          =
href=3D"http://www.geocaching.com/profile/default.asp?A=3D88519">Azcachme=
ister=20
          </A>had visited the cache this morning and reported that it =
indeed had=20
          been plundered.</DIV>
          <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV>I am heading out to the Diamondbacks game in a short =
time, so on=20
          the way there I will stop at a cache that I visit frequently, =
<A=20
          =
href=3D"http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=3D13581">Hav=
e=20
          Bug, Will Travel</A>.&nbsp; I stopped there Saturday morning =
to get=20
          the only travel bug in it and I moved the travel bug to =
another cache=20
          in Pinal County later that day.&nbsp; Fortunately, if the =
pirate did=20
          clean out this cache, there were no travel bugs in it.</DIV>
          <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV>In order to protect my traditional caches, I have made =
them all=20
          <STRONG>Members Only</STRONG>.&nbsp;This is to protect my own =
caches=20
          from plundering, as it appears the Cache Pirate is not a=20
          Geocaching.com Premium Member.&nbsp; I recommend that all =
cachers make=20
          your caches <STRONG>Members Only</STRONG> (and become a=20
          <STRONG>Premium Member</STRONG> if you are not a member) =
<U>now</U> to=20
          protect them from plundering.&nbsp; (Virtual caches cannot be=20
          plundered, so those are open to all).</DIV>
          <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV>Since there are some new cachers who perhaps aren't sure =
if they=20
          want to&nbsp;pay the $30 annual fee&nbsp;to become a Premium =
Member,=20
          here is what I will do for you.&nbsp; If you want to find one =
of my=20
          Members Only caches, and you are not yet a Premium Member and =
have=20
          been an active geocacher for <U>less than three months</U> =
with=20
          <U>fewer than 50 cache findings</U>, then you could find one =
of my=20
          caches without becoming a Premium Member.&nbsp; To do this, =
send me an=20
          e-mail explaining what cache you would like to find, and I =
will=20
          respond with an e-mail listing the coordinates and a brief=20
          description.&nbsp; You could find the cache and sign the =
logbook in=20
          the cache, but you won't be able to log your finding on =
Geocaching.com=20
          until you become a Premium Member.</DIV>
          <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV>This is&nbsp;available to new geocachers only (and =
obviously does=20
          not apply to the Cache Pirate).&nbsp; I hope this new personal =
policy=20
          is agreeable to all, and in my opinion will encourage =
Geocachers to=20
          become Premium Members without restricting access to =
geocaching by=20
          newcomers.</DIV>
          <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D3>Ken Akerman</FONT></STRONG> =
(a.k.a.=20
          <STRONG><EM>Highpointer</EM></STRONG>)</DIV>
          <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
          =
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