[Az-Geocaching] Cache Pirate on the loose: Here is how I will protect my caches

Ken listserv@azgeocaching.com
Sun, 4 May 2003 13:01:31 -0700


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MessageI don't remember seeing either of you when I was at the land =
managers meeting last year. I make every attempt to abide by the rules =
and have been very active in attempting to make this hobby acceptable.

Ken
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  From: Team Evil Fish=20
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 12:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Cache Pirate on the loose: Here is how I =
will protect my caches


  yeah Well Spoken ChacheLess, I guess if we as established cachers are =
unable to abide by ALL the rules why should a new cacher do the same.


    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Bill Tomlinson=20
    To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
    Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 12:24 PM
    Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Cache Pirate on the loose: Here is how =
I will protect my caches


    Ken,

    Am I understanding correctly that you will be making your caches =
members only to avoid land managers and the policies they have in place?

    CacheLess
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      From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com =
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Ken
      Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 12:18 PM
      To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
      Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Cache Pirate on the loose: Here is =
how I will protect my caches


      I have decided to do the same. With all the land managers out =
grabbing my caches and now this bozo on the loose it is becoming to =
frustrating.

      Ken
      WhereRwee?
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        From: Ken Akerman=20
        To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
        Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 11:33 AM
        Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Cache Pirate on the loose: Here is how =
I will protect my caches


        To Arizona Geocachers,

        It's sad to see that there apparently is a cache pirate on the =
loose.  I thought his entries were a joke, because he stated that he was =
at two caches on Saturday that I visited in the morning (neither one was =
plundered at that time), but when I checked the log for Pushing Tin near =
Sky Harbor International Airport, I read that Azcachmeister had visited =
the cache this morning and reported that it indeed had been plundered.

        I am heading out to the Diamondbacks game in a short time, so on =
the way there I will stop at a cache that I visit frequently, Have Bug, =
Will Travel.  I stopped there Saturday morning to get the only travel =
bug in it and I moved the travel bug to another cache in Pinal County =
later that day.  Fortunately, if the pirate did clean out this cache, =
there were no travel bugs in it.

        In order to protect my traditional caches, I have made them all =
Members Only. This is to protect my own caches from plundering, as it =
appears the Cache Pirate is not a Geocaching.com Premium Member.  I =
recommend that all cachers make your caches Members Only (and become a =
Premium Member if you are not a member) now to protect them from =
plundering.  (Virtual caches cannot be plundered, so those are open to =
all).

        Since there are some new cachers who perhaps aren't sure if they =
want to pay the $30 annual fee to become a Premium Member, here is what =
I will do for you.  If you want to find one of my Members Only caches, =
and you are not yet a Premium Member and have been an active geocacher =
for less than three months with fewer than 50 cache findings, then you =
could find one of my caches without becoming a Premium Member.  To do =
this, send me an e-mail explaining what cache you would like to find, =
and I will respond with an e-mail listing the coordinates and a brief =
description.  You could find the cache and sign the logbook in the =
cache, but you won't be able to log your finding on Geocaching.com until =
you become a Premium Member.

        This is available to new geocachers only (and obviously does not =
apply to the Cache Pirate).  I hope this new personal policy is =
agreeable to all, and in my opinion will encourage Geocachers to become =
Premium Members without restricting access to geocaching by newcomers.

        Ken Akerman (a.k.a. Highpointer)


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I don't remember seeing either of you =
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acceptable.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ken</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dbuggers@mindspring.com =
href=3D"mailto:buggers@mindspring.com">Team Evil=20
  Fish</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 04, 2003 =
12:52 PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] =
Cache Pirate=20
  on the loose: Here is how I will protect my caches</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>yeah Well Spoken ChacheLess, I guess =
if we as=20
  established cachers are unable to abide by ALL the rules why should a =
new=20
  cacher do the same.</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dbilltomlinson@qwest.net =
href=3D"mailto:billtomlinson@qwest.net">Bill=20
    Tomlinson</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
    =
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 04, 2003 =
12:24=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Az-Geocaching] =
Cache=20
    Pirate on the loose: Here is how I will protect my caches</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D666292319-04052003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>Ken,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D666292319-04052003><FONT face=3DArial =
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    <DIV><SPAN class=3D666292319-04052003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Am=20
    I understanding correctly that you will be making your caches =
members only=20
    to avoid land managers and the policies they have in=20
    place?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D666292319-04052003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D666292319-04052003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>CacheLess</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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align=3Dleft><FONT=20
      face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com">az-geocachi=
ng-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com</A>=20
      [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] <B>On =
Behalf Of=20
      </B>Ken<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 04, 2003 12:18 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
      listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] =
Cache=20
      Pirate on the loose: Here is how I will protect my=20
      caches<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have decided to do the same. =
With all the=20
      land managers out grabbing my caches and now this bozo on the =
loose it is=20
      becoming to frustrating.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ken</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>WhereRwee?</FONT></DIV>
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        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
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        <DIV=20
        style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
        <A title=3Dken@highpointer.com =
href=3D"mailto:ken@highpointer.com">Ken=20
        Akerman</A> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
        title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A>=20
        </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 04, =
2003 11:33=20
        AM</DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Az-Geocaching] =
Cache=20
        Pirate on the loose: Here is how I will protect my caches</DIV>
        <DIV><BR></DIV>
        <DIV>To Arizona Geocachers,</DIV>
        <DIV><BR>It's sad to see that there apparently is a <A=20
        =
href=3D"http://www.geocaching.com/profile/default.asp?A=3D121309">cache=20
        pirate </A>on the loose.&nbsp; I thought his entries were a =
joke,=20
        because he stated that he was at two caches on Saturday that I =
visited=20
        in the morning (neither one was plundered at that time), but =
when I=20
        checked the log for <A=20
        =
href=3D"http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=3D67154">Pus=
hing=20
        Tin</A> near Sky Harbor International Airport, I read that <A=20
        =
href=3D"http://www.geocaching.com/profile/default.asp?A=3D88519">Azcachme=
ister=20
        </A>had visited the cache this morning and reported that it =
indeed had=20
        been plundered.</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>I am heading out to the Diamondbacks game in a short time, =
so on=20
        the way there I will stop at a cache that I visit frequently, <A =

        =
href=3D"http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=3D13581">Hav=
e=20
        Bug, Will Travel</A>.&nbsp; I stopped there Saturday morning to =
get the=20
        only travel bug in it and I moved the travel bug to another =
cache in=20
        Pinal County later that day.&nbsp; Fortunately, if the pirate =
did clean=20
        out this cache, there were no travel bugs in it.</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>In order to protect my traditional caches, I have made them =
all=20
        <STRONG>Members Only</STRONG>.&nbsp;This is to protect my own =
caches=20
        from plundering, as it appears the Cache Pirate is not a =
Geocaching.com=20
        Premium Member.&nbsp; I recommend that all cachers make your =
caches=20
        <STRONG>Members Only</STRONG> (and become a <STRONG>Premium=20
        Member</STRONG> if you are not a member) <U>now</U> to protect =
them from=20
        plundering.&nbsp; (Virtual caches cannot be plundered, so those =
are open=20
        to all).</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>Since there are some new cachers who perhaps aren't sure if =
they=20
        want to&nbsp;pay the $30 annual fee&nbsp;to become a Premium =
Member,=20
        here is what I will do for you.&nbsp; If you want to find one of =
my=20
        Members Only caches, and you are not yet a Premium Member and =
have been=20
        an active geocacher for <U>less than three months</U> with =
<U>fewer than=20
        50 cache findings</U>, then you could find one of my caches =
without=20
        becoming a Premium Member.&nbsp; To do this, send me an e-mail=20
        explaining what cache you would like to find, and I will respond =
with an=20
        e-mail listing the coordinates and a brief description.&nbsp; =
You could=20
        find the cache and sign the logbook in the cache, but you won't =
be able=20
        to log your finding on Geocaching.com until you become a Premium =

        Member.</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>This is&nbsp;available to new geocachers only (and =
obviously does=20
        not apply to the Cache Pirate).&nbsp; I hope this new personal =
policy is=20
        agreeable to all, and in my opinion will encourage Geocachers to =
become=20
        Premium Members without restricting access to geocaching by=20
        newcomers.</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D3>Ken Akerman</FONT></STRONG> (a.k.a.=20
        <STRONG><EM>Highpointer</EM></STRONG>)</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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