[Az-Geocaching] re: possible false finds???

Scott Sparks listserv@azgeocaching.com
Fri, 11 Jul 2003 14:41:20 -0700


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I noticed something peculiar when this team logged Sprocket's 12 Step 
Program earlier this week.  I had been to the cache that evening and saw 
no recent logs. (I could swear their log was originally posted on the 
9th but now it has changed to July 10th.)  When I checked some of their 
other recent logs, I saw that they had logs in about 10 different states 
within a period of less than two weeks.  Not impossible, for someone who 
travels on business a lot.  But, to fly into Sky Harbor (from Idaho), 
drive the 40 some odd miles to Apache Junction and complete a 12 step 
cache and then  complete another 8 caches widely scattered throughout 
the Phoenix area (none of which are very close to Sky Harbor) seems 
far-fetched.  These included a couple of 'strenuous' and lengthy 
mountain caches on what we all know was a day of extreme heat (around 
110 degrees), a feat in itself, especially for someone from D.C.  Today, 
they're  back in Ohio and have logged a couple more caches. The day 
before, they logged a cache in Massechusetts and Idaho.  The day before 
that was California, Wyoming and, get this, New Zealand!  These guys 
must have their own Lear jet or something.

It sounds to me like they are doing some armchair caching.  They're 
doing a good job of reading past logs and finding what the cache is like 
and then writing something similar in their log.  For example, 
Malthusian's Club 2400 cache  (a 4 mile hike) has this in the description:

'A rather steep hike to a ridgeline with a great view, in the northeast 
part of the Phoenix Mountain Preserve. Plan on a couple hours.'

Here is Electric Shavers log:

Yippie, Yahoo, I found it.
Took advice of others & did early this morning.
Everything was fine. Took around 2 hours.
Great hike & place.
Cords were right on, Cache in great shape.
Took & left nothing.
Thanks for the cache
ELECTRIC SHAVERS
Hamilton OH & D of C

Needless to say, I'll be checking my cache today to verify that they did 
(or didn't) sign the log.

-- Sprocket

>Some of you may have seen cache finds by a group called Electric Shavers. Please check their finds.  There is some discussion on the forums (fora?) that their finds "improperly logged". Those of you who own caches they have hit may just want to verify the log entry.
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I noticed something peculiar when this team logged Sprocket's 12 Step Program
earlier this week. &nbsp;I had been to the cache that evening and saw no recent
logs. (I could swear their log was originally posted on the 9th but now it
has changed to July 10th.) &nbsp;When I checked some of their other recent logs,
I saw that they had logs in about 10 different states within a period of
less than two weeks. &nbsp;Not impossible, for someone who travels on business
a lot. &nbsp;But, to fly into Sky Harbor (from Idaho), drive the 40 some odd miles
to Apache Junction and complete a 12 step cache and then &nbsp;complete another
8 caches widely scattered throughout the Phoenix area (none of which are
very close to Sky Harbor) seems far-fetched. &nbsp;These included a couple of
'strenuous' and lengthy mountain caches on what we all know was a day of
extreme heat (around 110 degrees), a feat in itself, especially for someone
from D.C. &nbsp;Today, they're&nbsp; back in Ohio and have logged a couple more caches.
The day before, they logged a cache in Massechusetts and Idaho. &nbsp;The day
before that was California, Wyoming and, get this, New Zealand! &nbsp;These guys
must have their own Lear jet or something.<br>
<br>
It sounds to me like they are doing some armchair caching. &nbsp;They're doing
a good job of reading past logs and finding what the cache is like and then
writing something similar in their log. &nbsp;For example, Malthusian's Club 2400
cache &nbsp;(a 4 mile hike) has this in the description:<br>
<br>
'<span id="ShortDescription"><font face="Verdana" size="2">A rather steep 
hike to a ridgeline with a great view, in the northeast part of the Phoenix 
Mountain Preserve. <u>Plan on a couple hours</u>.</font></span>'<br>
<br>
Here is Electric Shavers log:<br>
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<font face="Verdana" size="2"><span id="CacheLogs"><font face="Verdana"
 size="2"> Yippie, Yahoo, I found it.<br>
Took advice of others &amp; did early this morning.<br>
Everything was fine. <u>Took around 2 hours.</u><br>
Great hike &amp; place.<br>
Cords were right on, Cache in great shape.<br>
Took &amp; left nothing.<br>
Thanks for the cache <br>
ELECTRIC SHAVERS<br>
Hamilton OH &amp; D of C</font></span></font><br>
<br>
Needless to say, I'll be checking my cache today to verify that they did
(or didn't) sign the log.<br>
<br>
-- Sprocket<br>
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