[Az-Geocaching] Abuse of authority and trampling of our rights by power-hungry government officials

Regan Smith listserv@azgeocaching.com
Fri, 24 Jan 2003 06:43:10 -0700


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what a shame that those who are truly responsible for such are never =
punished it is always the law abiding people
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Jeff Moriarty=20
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 9:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Abuse of authority and trampling of our =
rights by power-hungry government officials


  Damn straight, Ken!  I'm with you!  This is our land, and where do =
these know-it-alls get off telling us what we can and cannot do?

  In fact, I was out looking for a cache last weekend and had a great =
time out there.  Hiking in, we saw some beatiful rock formations, so I =
drew on them with spraypaint to tell everyone how cool I thought they =
were.  I bet even those facist rangers will like that funny picture I =
drew of those naked women.  Unfortunately, this big cactus ened up =
blocking the view of our art, so I had to push the thing over.  There =
are plenty of cacti out there, so I bet no one will care.  We got hungry =
from all this work so started a fire.  It got a little out of hand and =
torched a few acres, but that stuff happens so no big deal.  It will =
grow back.  We took out some rabbits with our shotguns, and blew up a =
few computer monitors we hauled out there for target practice.  Sweet!  =
If you get out that way, check out how much beer we drank, dude!  We =
left the cans everywhere!  Hiking out, we saw a real nice patch of land, =
beautiful view, the works!  I think I'm going to clear away some trees =
there and start building a house!  It's my land, after all. =20

  Jeff.
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: ken@highpointer.com=20
    To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
    Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 1:33 PM
    Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Abuse of authority and trampling of our =
rights by power-hungry government officials


    It seems all National Forest caches will soon be removed.

    I am very distressed by the arbitrary and extreme actions that the =
Forest Service is doing by removing our caches.  This is our PUBLIC =
land, owned by everyone in the USA, and it is not the rangers' or the =
land managers' land.  Geocaching helps get more people out to National =
Forest land and gets people more actively engaged in outdoor activities =
and outdoor exercise.  Our activity has neglible impact on the =
environment, and many of us remove trash and litter during our =
geocaching hikes, so we can say that we have a positive impact on the =
environment.  It is a relatively low-cost activity that almost everyone =
can participate in at one level or another.

    We need to protest this extreme action and get the Forest Service to =
stop removing our caches.  I used to consider myself an =
"environmentalist", but if being a good environmentalist means being =
opposed to geocaching, then I don't want to be a part of any such =
"environmental" movement.

    How about contacting our U.S. Senators and Congressional =
Representatives to tell forest rangers and managers to stop removing =
geocaching and interfering with geocaching?  We should get together and =
draft letters that we should sign and send all Arizona Congressional =
Representatives, and encourage people in other states to do the same =
with their own Representatives to Congress.  We can't passively overlook =
the threat to geocaching that our "public servants" are doing, the abuse =
of their authority and their trampling of our rights as U.S. citizens to =
enjoy our public lands - lands open and available to all for =
multiple-use activities.  The actions they are doing are more =
reminiscent of a communist regime or totalitarian dictatorship, not the =
U.S.A.

    Ken Akerman
    Concerned Citizen and Geocacher

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>what a shame that those who are truly =
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Djeff@moriartys.net href=3D"mailto:jeff@moriartys.net">Jeff =
Moriarty</A>=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 23, =
2003 9:01=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] =
Abuse of=20
  authority and trampling of our rights by power-hungry government=20
  officials</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Damn straight, Ken!&nbsp; I'm with =
you!&nbsp;=20
  This is our land, and where do these know-it-alls get off telling us =
what we=20
  can and cannot do?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In fact,&nbsp;I was out looking for a =
cache last=20
  weekend and had a great time out there.&nbsp; Hiking in, we saw some =
beatiful=20
  rock formations, so I drew on them with spraypaint to tell everyone =
how cool I=20
  thought they were.&nbsp; I bet even those facist rangers will like =
that funny=20
  picture I drew of those naked women.&nbsp; Unfortunately, this big =
cactus ened=20
  up blocking the view of our art, so I had to push the thing =
over.&nbsp; There=20
  are plenty of cacti out there, so I bet no one will care.&nbsp; We got =
hungry=20
  from all this work so started a fire.&nbsp; It got a little out of =
hand and=20
  torched a few acres, but that stuff happens so no big deal.&nbsp; It =
will grow=20
  back.&nbsp; We took out some rabbits with our shotguns, and blew up a =
few=20
  computer monitors we hauled out there for target practice.&nbsp; =
Sweet!&nbsp;=20
  If you get out that way, check out how much beer we drank, dude!&nbsp; =
We left=20
  the cans everywhere!&nbsp; Hiking out, we saw a real nice patch of =
land,=20
  beautiful view, the works!&nbsp; I think I'm going to clear away some =
trees=20
  there and start building a house!&nbsp; It's my land, after all.&nbsp; =

  </FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jeff.</FONT></DIV>
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    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dken@highpointer.com=20
    href=3D"mailto:ken@highpointer.com">ken@highpointer.com</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A> =
</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 23, =
2003 1:33=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Az-Geocaching] =
Abuse of=20
    authority and trampling of our rights by power-hungry government=20
    officials</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <P><EM>It seems all National Forest caches will soon be=20
    removed.<BR></EM><BR>I am very distressed by the arbitrary and =
extreme=20
    actions that the Forest Service is doing by removing our =
caches.&nbsp; This=20
    is our PUBLIC land, owned by everyone in the USA, and it is not the =
rangers'=20
    or the land managers' land.&nbsp; Geocaching helps get more people =
out to=20
    National Forest land and gets people more actively engaged in =
outdoor=20
    activities and outdoor exercise.&nbsp; Our activity has neglible =
impact on=20
    the environment, and many of us remove trash and litter during our=20
    geocaching hikes, so we can say that we have a positive impact on =
the=20
    environment.&nbsp; It is a relatively low-cost activity that almost =
everyone=20
    can participate in at one level or another.</P>
    <P>We need to protest this extreme action and get the Forest Service =
to stop=20
    removing our caches.&nbsp; I used to consider myself an =
"environmentalist",=20
    but if being a good environmentalist means being opposed to =
geocaching, then=20
    I don't want to be a part of any such "environmental" movement.</P>
    <P>How about contacting our U.S. Senators and Congressional =
Representatives=20
    to tell forest rangers and managers to stop removing geocaching and=20
    interfering with geocaching?&nbsp; We should get together and draft =
letters=20
    that we should sign and send all Arizona Congressional =
Representatives, and=20
    encourage people in other states to do the same with their own=20
    Representatives to Congress.&nbsp; We can't passively overlook the =
threat to=20
    geocaching that our "public servants" are doing, the abuse of their=20
    authority and their trampling of our rights as U.S. citizens to =
enjoy=20
    <U>our</U> public lands - lands open and available to all for=20
    <U>multiple-use</U> activities.&nbsp; The actions they are doing are =
more=20
    reminiscent of a communist regime or totalitarian dictatorship, not =
the=20
    U.S.A.</P>
    <P>Ken Akerman<BR>Concerned Citizen and=20
Geocacher</P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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