[Az-Geocaching] For the Caching gods
jr davis
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Thu, 10 Apr 2003 17:16:38 -0700
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MessageHow about a cache for non-members only? =20
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From: Bill Tomlinson=20
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 4:43 PM
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] For the Caching gods
Rand, You left the fish speechless! ;-)
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[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of =
Regan Smith
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 2:35 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] For the Caching gods
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From: RAND HARDIN=20
To: AZ-Geocaching=20
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] For the Caching gods
Okay, I too am now upset! I just sent notes to Ken about my =
displeasure about not being able to read new posts to his caches that I =
had found prior to him changing them over to Members Only caches. I =
also expressed my feelings about how the change has affected the stats =
(it took two of my finds and moved them over to "out-of-state" finds). =
I'm like Scott - I will not seek "out-of-state" caches! I too enjoy the =
numbers game!
Ken explained to me his feelings about why dedicated geocachers =
should become Premium Members and suggested that I too become a member. =
I responded with my feelings and why I cannot afford to become a member =
at this time.
Ken sounds very strong in his reasoning and beliefs. I did =
suggest to him that if he is so convicted to his feelings, that maybe he =
should boycott enjoying any non-members caches. =20
Is it fair for someone to limit their caches to "members only" - =
but in turn goes out and finds regular caches!? (Hypocrisy?)
Rand (RandMan) =20
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From: Scott Nicol
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 9:49 AM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] For the Caching gods
Ok. I don't usually fuss with much, but this one definetly =
irritates me. I=20
am one of those 'numbers' cachers. I do enjoy looking at the =
stats and the=20
numbers (for my own pleasure of course, not for competitive =
purposes). I am=20
a bit annoyed that 9 of my in state cache finds now show up as =
out of state.
This is the result of 8 AZ caches becoming 'members only' =
caches. These are=20
caches that previously (when I found them), where not MO. What =
happens is=20
that the AZgeocaching.com site is not a member, therefore it =
doesnt crawl=20
the MO cache pages. (that is what I have heard anyways). At any =
rate, the AZ=20
stats doesnt recognize Arizona MO caches and they show up in the =
out of=20
state file. (anyone who knows me knows that I have 0 out of =
state finds and=20
probably always will!).
I personally beleive that if a cache is started out as a 'free' =
cache, it=20
should remain that way for the life of the cache. If someone =
chooses to make=20
their caches members only, they should do so with only the new =
caches that=20
they place and not turn all their old caches into MO caches. I =
know=20
Highpointer recently commented on this on the listserve a few =
days ago and=20
that he was going to change his caches over to MO. I understand =
his views on=20
the subject. However, Highpointer...I feel you should keep your =
old caches=20
open to all and if you want members only, perhaps only turn your =
new ones=20
into MO. The other problem I have with old caches changing into =
MO... I no=20
longer can look back on those caches and read my logs (diary if =
you will) of=20
my experiences at those caches (as I am not a member of =
geocaching.com; that=20
is a whole nuther' thread, I am sure!). I hope Highpointer will =
reconsider=20
changing his old caches back to non-MO.
I have always enjoyed doing Highpointer's caches, he hides some =
good ones. I=20
also very much appreciate his seeking my cache on Stewart =
Mountain and the=20
comments he left there. I think me and Highpointer share many of =
the same=20
views on geocaching and enjoy doing the same types of caches.
I guess I will not be able to do anymore of Highpointer's caches =
as I am not=20
a member of geocaching.com. However, I have no problem with his =
making his=20
new caches MO, Members Only caches are available as an option to =
members of=20
geocaching.com and that is an option that is available to him to =
use if he=20
chooses to. I just wish he would reconsider and keep his older =
caches open=20
to all.
Scott
Team Ropingthewind
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Caching gods</DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG>Okay, I too am now upset!</STRONG> I just=20
sent notes to Ken about my displeasure about not being able =
to read=20
new posts to his caches that I had found prior to him changing =
them over=20
to Members Only caches. I also expressed my =
feelings=20
about how the change has affected the stats (it took two =
of my=20
finds and moved them over to "out-of-state" finds). I'm like =
Scott=20
- I will not seek "out-of-state" caches! I =
too enjoy the=20
numbers game!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Ken explained to me his feelings =
about why <U>dedicated</U>=20
geocachers should become Premium Members and suggested that=20
I too become a member. I responded with my =
feelings=20
and why I cannot afford to become a member at this =
time.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Ken sounds very strong in his reasoning and =
beliefs. I did=20
suggest to him that if he is so convicted to his feelings, that =
maybe he=20
should boycott enjoying any non-members caches. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Is it fair for someone to limit their caches to "members =
only" - but=20
in turn goes out and finds regular caches!? =
(Hypocrisy?)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Rand (RandMan) </DIV>
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Scott Nicol</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 10, =
2003 9:49=20
AM</DIV>
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listserv@azgeocaching.com</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
[Az-Geocaching] For=20
the Caching gods</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV><BR><BR>Ok. I don't usually fuss with much, but =
this=20
one definetly irritates me. I <BR>am one of those 'numbers' =
cachers. I=20
do enjoy looking at the stats and the <BR>numbers (for my own =
pleasure=20
of course, not for competitive purposes). I am <BR>a bit annoyed =
that 9=20
of my in state cache finds now show up as out of =
state.<BR><BR>This is=20
the result of 8 AZ caches becoming 'members only' caches. These =
are=20
<BR>caches that previously (when I found them), where not MO. =
What=20
happens is <BR>that the AZgeocaching.com site is not a member, =
therefore=20
it doesnt crawl <BR>the MO cache pages. (that is what I have =
heard=20
anyways). At any rate, the AZ <BR>stats doesnt recognize Arizona =
MO=20
caches and they show up in the out of <BR>state file. (anyone =
who knows=20
me knows that I have 0 out of state finds and <BR>probably =
always=20
will!).<BR><BR>I personally beleive that if a cache is started =
out as a=20
'free' cache, it <BR>should remain that way for the life of the =
cache.=20
If someone chooses to make <BR>their caches members only, they =
should do=20
so with only the new caches that <BR>they place and not turn all =
their=20
old caches into MO caches. I know <BR>Highpointer recently =
commented on=20
this on the listserve a few days ago and <BR>that he was going =
to change=20
his caches over to MO. I understand his views on <BR>the =
subject.=20
However, Highpointer...I feel you should keep your old caches =
<BR>open=20
to all and if you want members only, perhaps only turn your new =
ones=20
<BR>into MO. The other problem I have with old caches changing =
into=20
MO... I no <BR>longer can look back on those caches and read my =
logs=20
(diary if you will) of <BR>my experiences at those caches (as I =
am not a=20
member of geocaching.com; that <BR>is a whole nuther' thread, I =
am=20
sure!). I hope Highpointer will reconsider <BR>changing his old =
caches=20
back to non-MO.<BR><BR>I have always enjoyed doing Highpointer's =
caches,=20
he hides some good ones. I <BR>also very much appreciate his =
seeking my=20
cache on Stewart Mountain and the <BR>comments he left there. I =
think me=20
and Highpointer share many of the same <BR>views on geocaching =
and enjoy=20
doing the same types of caches.<BR><BR>I guess I will not be =
able to do=20
anymore of Highpointer's caches as I am not <BR>a member of=20
geocaching.com. However, I have no problem with his making his =
<BR>new=20
caches MO, Members Only caches are available as an option to =
members of=20
<BR>geocaching.com and that is an option that is available to =
him to use=20
if he <BR>chooses to. I just wish he would reconsider and keep =
his older=20
caches open <BR>to all.<BR><BR>Scott<BR>Team=20
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