Re: [Az-Geocaching] Duquesne

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Author: Andrew Ayre
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Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Duquesne
Thanks for the reply.

I hate to sound like a nutcase... ;) but if the road is public then we
have a right to drive on it, despite what the current owners would like.
The public who pay for the road shouldn't be scared off by a few people
who bought the town. So the issue is: do we have a right to drive
through there?

I know there are many cases in southern Arizona where a public road
crosses private property. Is this one of those cases?

If a forest road is numbered, does that mean it is public?

Andy

ShadowAce wrote:
> According to some sites:
> http://home.earthlink.net/~ghosttowns2/arizona/#_Toc35324969
>
> It does mention part of this is now private property.
>
> I know Ruby is also off of a County Road but it was purchased and is now
> private property with a fee of $12 per person (not carload) to enter.
>
> http://www.ghosttowns.com/states/az/duquesne.html
> <http://www.ghosttowns.com/states/az/duquesne.html>
> DUQUESNE
>
> NAME: Duquesne
> COUNTY: Santa Cruz
> ROADS: 2WD
> LEGAL INFO: T24S, R16E
> CLIMATE: Mild winter, Hot summer
> BEST TIME TO VISIT: Winter, fall, spring    
> COMMENTS: The public is not really welcome here say the owners and
> current residents. Video available, see below. Take SR 82 to Patagonia
> and thereafter drive 20 miles south of Patagonia. Road is paved the
> first 6 miles and after that is dirt road FR 49. The town is little more
> then 4 miles south of Mowry.
> REMAINS: Many original buildings, mining equipment and the like.

>
> According to the Santa Cruz County Assessor's office ( (520) 375-8030
> ), this is now private property as part of a new subdivision.
>
> Long and short, I would find another place to take friends...
>
> On Nov 14, 2007 9:43 AM, Andrew Ayre <
> <mailto:andy@britishideas.com>> wrote:
>
>     Sorry if this is a bit off-topic.

>
>     We have some guests from Europe who would like to see ghost towns. My
>     favorite is Duquesne, however the last time we went there a guy was
>     boarding up windows and wasn't happy we were there. It seems the
>     town is
>     private property. However my understanding is that the road through the
>     town is FR128 in the Coronado National Forest and that is it a public
>     road. So as long as we don't walk off the road we are within our rights
>     to stop and look at the buildings (from the road).

>
>     I tried calling the Forest Service but they were hopeless. They couldn't
>     confirm that the road through the town is public. All they could say is
>     that it isn't marked as closed on their map and if the county is
>     grading
>     the road then it must be public.

>
>     On my 1:24,000 USGS maps the forest roads are not numbered, and I
>     couldn't find any maps online that showed this road as being numbered.

>
>     Does anyone have any knowledge about this road, or perhaps the
>     number of
>     someone in the Forest Service who can give a definitive answer?

>
>     thanks, Andy

>
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