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Author: ShadowAce
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Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Anyone using Garmin Topo 2008?
http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=32.6775517&LON=-112.377645&datum=NAD83&u=5

Only a problem near Phoenix :)

Feature ID:    11757
Name:    Squaw Tit
Class:    Summit
Citation:    Collected during Phase I data compilation (1976-1981),
primarily from U.S. Geological Survey 1:24,000-scale topographic maps (or
1:25K, Puerto Rico 1:20K), various edition dates, and from U.S. Board on
Geographic Names files.
Entry Date:    08-Feb-1980
Elevation(ft/m):    3881/1183


N 32 40.39 W 112 22.40


On 8/30/07, Creepin' Jeepers - Geocaching 7/01 <>
wrote:
>
> New Mexico has no such hang-ups--Tetilla Peak is still Tetilla Peak
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* AZcachemeister <>
> *To:*
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 30, 2007 6:54 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Az-Geocaching] Anyone using Garmin Topo 2008?
>
> I think we should go back to what the old miners used to call it, before
> people got upset and said it had to be changed to Squaw *Peak*! <wink>
>
> ShadowAce wrote:
>
> Not that it really matters I guess but it is still Squaw Peak according to
> the USGS GNIS database as well. So that might explain why mapping software
> still labels it as such?
>
> I believe it might have to do with the fact that it was never officially
> renamed (on a federal level). The renaming was a local thing done in Arizona
> but not fully supported or signed off on the federal level. After the local
> naming was allowed by the Arizona Board of Geographic and Historic names,
> the federal Board on Geographic names was not in agreement..
>
> Ah heck, here is the June 2007 report on Name submissions that covers all
> this...
>
> Officially it is Squaw Peak. So Garmin will name it as such ..
>
> http://geonames.usgs.gov/docs/dockets/ReviewList395.pdf
> Swilling Peak: summit; elevation 795 m (2,608 ft); in the City of Phoenix,
> within Phoenix Mountains Park
> and Recreation Area; named for John "Jack" Swilling (1830-1878), one of
> the original founders of the city of
> Phoenix; Maricopa County, Arizona; Sec 2, T2N, R3E, Gila and Salt River
> Mer.; 33°32'50"N, 112°01'15"W;
> USGS map - Sunnyslope 1:24,000; Not: Piestewa Peak, Squaw Peak.
> http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=33.54726&lon=-
> 112.0207&datum=nad83&u=5&layer=DRG&size=l&s=50
>
> Proposal: to eliminate a name considered by some to be derogatory
>
> Map: USGS Sunnyslope 1:24,000
>
> Proponent: Al Bates; Prescott, AZ
>
> Administrative area: Phoenix Mountains Park and Recreation Area
>
> Previous BGN Action: None
>
> Names associated with feature:
>
> GNIS: Squaw Peak (FID 11741)
>
> Local Usage: Piestewa Peak (local residents; Arizona Board on Geographic
> and Historic Names;
> City of Phoenix; Phoenix Mountains Park and Recreation Department), Squaw
> Peak (local
> residents)
>
> Published: Piestewa Peak (City of Phoenix; Phoenix Mountains Park and
> Recreation
> Department; local hiking guides; IndianCountry.com; Navajo Times, 2007),
> Squaw Peak (USGS
> 1954, 1978, 1988)
>
> Case Summary: The new name Swilling Peak is proposed as a replacement name
> for Squaw Peak, a
> prominent summit within the City of Phoenix. With an elevation of 795 m
> (2,608 ft), the summit is the
> second highest point in the Phoenix Mountains and it has been designated a
> Phoenix Point of Pride. The
> current name has appeared on Federal maps since at least at least the
> 1950's, but is considered by many to be
> derogatory. There have been several previous efforts to change the
> summit's name, but none were successful.
> In April 2003, the Arizona Board on Geographic and Historic Names
> considered and approved a request by
> the Governor of Arizona to rename it to Piestewa Peak, in honor of Pfc.
> Lori Piestewa, a resident of Arizona
> and a member of the Hopi Nation, who had died one month earlier during the
> conflict in Iraq. In researching
> this proposal, the AZBGHN determined that the change to Piestewa Peak had
> the support of the Inter-Tribal
> Council of Arizona. However, the BGN was not permitted to consider the
> request at the Federal level, citing
> the restrictions of the Commemorative Naming Policy that does not allow a
> commemorative name for a
> natural feature until the intended honoree has been deceased at least five
> years. The proposal is being held
> until March 2008, the five-year anniversary of Ms. Piestewa's death.
>
> Although the AZBGHN's renaming of Squaw Peak to Piestewa Peak has the
> support of many area residents
> and the new name is now shown on many local and State maps and products,
> there are a large number of
> other residents of Phoenix who do not endorse it, either because they do
> not believe the longstanding name
> Squaw Peak is derogatory, or because they object to the way in which the
> 2003 proposal was handled by the
> State.
>
> Citing these objections, this new proposal, to rename the summit to
> Swilling Peak, was submitted by a local
> historian. An online account of Swilling's life, authored by the
> proponent, provides the following: "Born in
> North Carolina, he moved to the New Mexico and Arizona Territories around
> the 1850's, pursuing
> prospecting and mining for newly discovered gold. By 1860, with the onset
> of the Civil War, he joined the
> Arizona Guards. Rather than report for disciplinary action, he and several
> others deserted from the CSA. He
> arrived in Phoenix from Prescott, Arizona, with friend and colleague
> Darrell Duppa in 1867. In his travels as
> a rider and scout for the Union, he had been fascinated with the ancient
> Hohokam ruins and artifacts,
> especially the extensive network of canals the ancient Indians had dug to
> irrigate their fields. His concept was
> that the old canals could be re-built for modern farmers, and that the
> soil of the valley could support highly
> productive farms. Within a very short time, the Swilling and Duppa team
> had water flowing in a canal. By
> January 1, 1868, Swilling's home area, where up to fifty more pioneer
> homes had been built by this time, was
> known as Pumpkinville - so named for the impressive growth of pumpkins
> Jack had earlier planted along the
> canals. Darrell Duppa suggested the name Phoenix--for much like the
> mythical Phoenix rising from its ashes,
> a new civilization would soon rise from the ashes of an old. Swilling died
> in jail of natural causes while
> awaiting trial for a stagecoach robbery he did not commit."
>
> There are two other geographic features in Arizona already named for John
> Swilling. Swilling Butte in
> Coconino County was the subject of a 1932 BGN decision, while Swilling
> Gulch in Yavapai County was a
> name found in local use and presumably so named because of its proximity
> to Swilling's ranch. The two
> features are located 299 km (186 mi) and 61 km (38 mi), respectively, from
> the summit in question.
>
>
> Basically prepare to climb Swilling Peak because it looks like that is
> what the name might become.
>
>
> On 8/30/07, Guy Aldrich <> wrote:
> >
> > I'm surprised Garmin is still calling it Squaw Peak.
> >
>
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