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Author: Cog&Gil -
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Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Am I missing something - Magellen 200s
I didn't expect to see much of a difference between my Garmin 60CSx and my
older 60CS. Due to the greater antenna sensitivity, I can now track on an
airliner by placing the unit on the fold down tray. In the past I had to
hold it up against the window which made some passengers nervous. This unit
even worked well aboard a ship through thick porthole glass. Oh, and my
Garmin is not from a French owned company!!

On 11/14/06, az_pistolero <> wrote:
>
> I need to chime in that I like my GPS-V ($149). Lets me download
> enough maps to cover a large city, albeit slowly over a serial link,
> and it'll do road routes. The unit can also hold the Garmin Topos
> (hidden until you turn off the MapSource maps). Runs for weeks on 4-
> AA batteries, I use the rechargeable type and carry a set of alkaline
> batteries as a backup.
>
> Jon
>
> On Nov 13, 2006, at 8:18 PM, Steven Stringham wrote:
>
> > I concur - I LOVE my 60csx. This is a unit with GREAT reception. That
> > being said, it is also a lot more expensive than the other units.
> >
> > What I was really complaining about was the STUPID decision by SOME
> > JERK
> > who did not put a PC interface on a GPS. What kind of idiotic
> > decision
> > was that? It basically makes the unit completely, totally without
> > value.
> >
> > And, then I found this site:
> > http://rhamphorinkx.newmail.ru/connect.htm
> > And this ebay site:
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-data-cable-for-Magellan-
> > eXplorist-100-200-300_W0QQitemZ200045702470QQihZ010QQcategoryZ94874QQr
> > dZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> >
> > So, it might have an interface available for it. But, it is pretty
> > ugly.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Guy Aldrich wrote:
> >> I have to say the Garmin 60CSX is the most accurate unit I've seen
> >> under all conditions and I have a Magellan meridian and a explorist
> >> 210. With that new Cirf chip it seems to get you to ground zero
> >> quicker . The explorist 210 has the most bang for the buck,You really
> >> don't need a PDA because it displays type of container,full
> >> name,terrain,difficulty,date last found and the full hint.
> >>
> >> On 11/13/06, Brian Casteel <> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I don't recall having problems like that in most cases. In fact,
> >>> often
> >>> times while sitting on my butt writing my cache log, I'll look
> >>> over to the
> >>> GPS and watch it flirt with 0' on a regular basis. If it happens
> >>> to get no
> >>> closer than 5' on a cache, I'd consider that quite excellent
> >>> overall.
> >>> Magellan has advantages over Garmin and likewise Garmin over
> >>> Magellan. The
> >>> most obvious between the 2 is the abundance of mapping software
> >>> options
> >>> Garmin has available to the very limited Magellan options. Of
> >>> course, with
> >>> the newer gen Garmin units, satellite acquisition is much better
> >>> with the
> >>> new SeRF chip.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Brian
> >>>
> >>> Team A.I.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From:
> >>> [mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On
> >>> Behalf Of Cordell Harris
> >>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 10:06 AM
> >>> To:
> >>> Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Am I missing something - Magellen 200s
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> OK Scott. Did I fail to mention that we have had the opportunity
> >>> to compare
> >>> the performance of (7) seven Magellan and Garmins against each
> >>> other while
> >>> doing something like 500 plus caches all over the US. In my
> >>> original
> >>> missive a forgot about the emap unit. The units we used are the
> >>> Garmin
> >>> Emap, 76CS, Etrex Legend, Etrex Legend Vista Cx. The 3 Magellans
> >>> were all
> >>> Sportrack Pros. We seem to keep dropping them! Maybe I should
> >>> also note
> >>> that none of the units failed operationally. Of all the Garmins
> >>> the Etrex
> >>> Legend is the best, e.g. sensititivy and accuracy. All the
> >>> others have/had
> >>> serious errors of 7 to 10 ft on the high resolution scale. These
> >>> errors are
> >>> consistent with caches that were placed by careful knowledgeable
> >>> cachers.
> >>> We have also had opportunity to compare waypoints established
> >>> scientifically
> >>> by standards. The 3 Magellan Sportrack Pros were all perfect
> >>> replicas and
> >>> were dead on. I am not hostile toward Garmin, but cannot ignore
> >>> results.
> >>> Both mapsource and mapsend topos (I have both) will allow
> >>> exchange of
> >>> waypoints but not maps. What I would like to be able to do is
> >>> use Delorme
> >>> topo maps (superior) in either or both brands of receivers with
> >>> Garmin
> >>> waypoint symbols. My backhand at Garmin is simply because they
> >>> are the
> >>> industry leaders in terms of sales and promotions and for now get
> >>> to set the
> >>> trend. Magellan Sportrack Pros are a great deal and very
> >>> adequate for
> >>> geocaching. I repeat my offer to trade the etrex legend vista Cx
> >>> for a
> >>> eXplorist 500. There is nothing wrong with the vista Cx except
> >>> the offset
> >>> mentioned above.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 11/13/06, Roping The Wind <> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> From: "Cordell Harris" <>
> >>>
> >>>> Magellan has better, more user friendly receivers that are more
> >>>> sensitive
> >>>> and accurate. If >unconvinced, try caching with the owner of a
> >>>> Magellan
> >>>> Sportrack Pro. Presently, we own two >Garmins a etrex legend and
> >>>> an etrex
> >>>> legend vista cx.
> >>>
> >>> The etrex line uses a patch antenna, which IMHO, is crap.
> >>> Upgrade to the
> >>> new
> >>> 60CSX and you will probably never see anything more accurate. I
> >>> do not
> >>> beleive that you can compare two GPS units for accuracy on a single
> >>> geocache
> >>> or any geocache for that matter. The cache owner's coordinates
> >>> could be off
> >>> for one. Also, both your GPS units will give slightly different
> >>> readings on
> >>> where the cache is supposed to be. To find true accuracy, take a
> >>> waypoint
> >>> and mark it with your GPS. Of course, with any GPS, you have to
> >>> leave it
> >>> there for a few minutes for a most accurate reading (too many
> >>> inexperienced
> >>> cachers hide a cache, hit mark on their GPS and leave and dont
> >>> allow the
> >>> GPS
> >>> to average location). Now, walk away a few hundred feet or more
> >>> and then
> >>> come back to ground zero and see where your GPS takes you. Do
> >>> this with two
> >>> units that you want to compare and see which one is most accurate.
> >>>
> >>> Of course, as Loran said, all GPS's these days are decently
> >>> accurate. They
> >>> will all take you to a waypoint and get you within 30 feet or
> >>> less. Do the
> >>> example above once and you will find that both GPS's did their
> >>> job well
> >>> enough. If you want to find truly which unit is better, with
> >>> there still
> >>> being slight errors in GPS's, you will still need to do the
> >>> example above
> >>> several times to average your results out to truly see which
> >>> unit is
> >>> better.
> >>> Seems nit picky. Well it is... as I just said, all GPS's are
> >>> accurate
> >>> enough. Still, if you want a GPS for just geocaching or marking
> >>> waypoints,
> >>> then a patch antenna Etrex or a Magellan GPS Blazer 12 (now that is
> >>> ancient!
> >>> and I have one too) is all you need. If you want to mark a
> >>> little hole in
> >>> the ground that an ant just went in to and then come back a week
> >>> later to
> >>> find it... then you need to spend the bigger dollars for a unit
> >>> with a 12
> >>> channel SiRFstar III high-sensitivity (WAAS-enabled) chip and
> >>> built-in quad
> >>> helix antenna, with external antenna connection (like the Garmin
> >>> 60csX).
> >>> Either units will get you to a geocache or any point for that
> >>> matter. But
> >>> the latter technology will, on average, get you to a specific
> >>> point more
> >>> consistantly.
> >>>
> >>>> Garmins are overpriced/overrated and as industry leaders don't
> >>>> like the
> >>>> strangle hold they maintain >on proprietary mapping software.
> >>>> We badly
> >>>> need mapping software that will function universally in >handhelds.
> >>>
> >>> Correct me if I am wrong, but doesnt Magellan also use
> >>> proprietary mapping
> >>> software? (Mapsend). I could be wrong on this, but I beleive
> >>> both Magellan
> >>> and Garmin have their own specific mapping software that must be
> >>> used for
> >>> mapping. I think both brands will accept some other mapping
> >>> software, but
> >>> only for uploading and transfering of waypoints, tracks, etc and
> >>> not maps.
> >>> If you want maps in your unit, you have to use their own mapping
> >>> software
> >>> (Mapsend or Mapsource).
> >>>
> >>> Scott
> >>> Team Ropingthewind
> >>>
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