Jeff
I can understand you feeling left out but your destructive behavior is not
the way to get attention
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Casteel" <
bcasteel@uccinc.net>
To: <
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Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] A new way to fake the numbers.
> Last I checked, FTFs aren't tracked anywhere, since electronically there
> is no way to verify if without having the logsheet in-hand. Trisha had it
> right. There are bigger fish in this whole thing to worry about, rather
> than simple terminology variances.
>
> Brian
> Team A.I.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jared Ross" <jaredmross@yahoo.com>
> To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>; <bill@freeholder.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 7:02 PM
> Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] A new way to fake the numbers.
>
>
>> <rebuttal>
>> Couldn't agree with Bill more. I've taken the last few
>> minutes to "cool off" after reading your original post
>> but my hands are still shaking with the jump in blood
>> pressure. I obviously take this somewhat personal
>> since AZFastFeet and I enjoy going FTF hunting
>> together. It started when we were working together, we
>> would leave for caches together, drive there together,
>> search together, and find together. Being a mere
>> milisecond off from when one of us finds it to the
>> other makes no difference to us. So sorry if you think
>> this calls our WHOLE caching record in to question,
>> but just go ahead and audit us Cache Officer, I
>> thought you were one of the first cachers against
>> people trying to "police" others. And don't start
>> thinking it's all about the competition, if you want,
>> I'll stop recording what # of FTF it is for me. That's
>> really for more of my personal records anyways, but it
>> just helps to have it attached to the log that it
>> corresponds to. There's an added adrenaline rush in
>> finding a cache first, for me anyway. Seeing that
>> blank log, it's just a thrill. Not sharing the FTF
>> with the person(s) who I shared all that excitement
>> with is just wrong.
>> </rebuttal>
>>
>> You keep caching your way, we'll keep caching ours.
>>
>> Jared
>>
>> --- Bill Nolan <bill@freeholder.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, this is kind of why I don't log finds at all.
>>> The whole competitive
>>> numbers thing just doesn't float my boat. Suppose
>>> that I go out cachine
>>> today with a friend. We are in the same car. We
>>> are working together. We
>>> head for a cache, park the car, and hike to it
>>> together. (There will
>>> probably be a hike. I don't do urban caches.) We
>>> arrive there at the same
>>> time. You want us to maybe flip a coin? Well, no
>>> flipping way. We found
>>> it together. It is a co-find. I see nothing wrong
>>> with that.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill in Willcox
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> On Behalf Of TEAM
>>> 360
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 4:12 PM
>>> To: az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com
>>> Subject: [Az-Geocaching] A new way to fake the
>>> numbers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [rant] Now, just what in the heck is this garbage
>>> about "Co-FTF" or a
>>> "Shared FTF" I have been seeing on cache pages
>>> lately? Just when I thought I
>>> saw it all, another new way to inflate the numbers
>>> comes along. What a
>>> cheatin' way to pump up the FTF count!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Listen, there is NO such thing. The cacher who signs
>>> the logsheet FIRST
>>> should be the only one to claim the FTF. The other
>>> cacher is SECOND-TO-FIND.
>>> It is a fact of cache-finding that cannot be
>>> changed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyone claiming a "Co-FTF" or "Shared FTF" casts
>>> doubt on the rest of their
>>> caching record, in my opinion...of course, so do the
>>> people who hide caches
>>> under sock puppet accounts and then go claim a find
>>> on them, or people who
>>> claim finds because they simply "got close", or did
>>> maintenance on a cache
>>> and posted another find on it, etc, etc...the list
>>> goes on and on... [/rant]
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