For those of you that cache at a slower pace, you can be more selective of which caches you decide to find. Some of us don't have that option. If I don't find them they stay on my not found page staring me in the face every day. So I will go out and find them all. There are many virtual that have plenty of merit. Examples are the museum series, and sites where you will learn something new.
But many are nothing more than a simple plaque on the side of the road. No creativity just another hide for the hider.
Which brings me to believe that many of the virtuals where created by cachers that felt they had to hide a cache but didn't want to have to work at it. Brought on by the KARMA rating at azgeocaching.com.
For me I never felt I had to hide caches. Maybe that's why I'm in Michigan now.
Team Sand Dollar
----- Original Message -----
From: Gale Draper
To:
listserv@azgeocaching.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Virtuals and camping out
There are plenty of you who don't like virtuals. That is fine for you. But you are insisting virtuals be eliminated for those who enjoy doing them. That stinks. I think some virtuals have more merit than just another altoids tin or tupperware among another trashy area. I'm picky and I don't do every cache. Why can't those of you who hate virtuals leave them alone for the rest of us to enjoy?
I have a cache that I want to do this year similar to one I did last year involving the statues on Main street in Mesa. I have to incorporate a cache with it now. I think it degrades my cache. Now people will walk around, see the statues and have to drive a few miles away just to claim credit for it. I would have liked the option to keep it as a virtual cache.
All of that said, it is Jeremy's site, with his rules/guidelines. I'll play by his rules until there are other options.
Can people still get credit for the Wickenburg event if we only come for the day? My bad hip cannot do camp outs any more. Not if I want to be able to walk at all the next day.
Larry H <friared1@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- J H/TEAM 360 wrote:
I know I am not the only one who likes
> to read historical signs at the side of freeways,
> and I find them a good lesson, as well as a "find".
I thought you didn't care about 'finds' anymore? :D
If GC.com is trying to
> free up server space by eliminating Virts, they
> should begin by deleting the 150+ pages of past
> forum discussions that no one references anyway.
Sounds like a number I posted recently ;)
Seriously, while I don't mind virtuals WITH MERIT, the
game is geoCACHING (emphasis mine). The idea is to
find a hidden container and sign a logbook proving you
found it. Virtuals were designed to allow playing the
game at places that could not support a hidden
container, such as NPS land.
With all of the unique micro-containers floating
around out there, it is hard to find a place that
could only have a true virtual cache. What's wrong
with hiding a logsheet/book at an interesting site
rather than having the finder email a picture or
codeword to you? Does it really take something away
from the experience? Do you really think the finder is
going to learn something more by not logging a book
and email you instead? I don't buy that one. I've
found a few virtuals and couldn't tell you what I
'learned' at any of them. I haven't had the desire to
find out more about why the monument or marker was
placed there. I imagine most other cachers are about
the same.
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FriarED
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