MessageGeocachers Against Stewards Badmouthing All Geocachers....GASBAG. lol
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From: Team Tierra Buena
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Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 8:42 PM
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] RE: grrrrrrrrr more mis information from the site stewards
I am NOT trying to defend this woman, but she does say "as of September 5", which was three weeks before the meeting. It's probably true that there hadn't been any caches pulled at that time.
But I'd love to know how many members of SAGAS there are.
Maybe we could form Geocachers Against Stewards Badmouthing All Geocachers.
Steve
Team Tierra Buena
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From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of WOLFB8
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 8:26 PM
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oooppppssss there a few errors from the scan and being her phone number did not scan correctly so here is the number (928)684-1670...just incase some knows how to fix a fence post the number 2 major issue in her area
We will be known by the tracks we leave behind
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From: WOLFB8
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Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 8:15 PM
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This is the second article that ken found ....scanned in
Hassayampa Region
Submitted by
Shelley Rasmussen, Regional Coordinator
We seem to be gradually working toward settling the issue of geacaching that h05 impacted several archaeclogical sites in the area. There has been communication with the geo-cachers, who have told us that they would move their yea- caches away from the sites and take the coordinates off the internet. As of September 5, no one has removed the geo-caches in question. Perhaps by the time this newsletter is out, we
will hove more[6 success. A~- long vs the archaeological sites are on their website, anyone (including looters) hove free access to the location of these sites. I would like to thank the Stewards Against Geo-caching Archaeological Sites (SAGAS) who hove helped so much, us well as those from other regions who hove volunteered their time and effort - some hove helped who are not even Site Stewards. This has been a group effort and I hope to be able to say at some point that it will be a success story
There is another important issue with which this region is dealing. Two historic cemeteries hove each had a corner post fail down and some of the barbed wire fencing is laying on the ground. Is there anyone with some knowledge of fence repair who can help to fix these fences? If so, please contact me at (928) 684~~67O.
We will be known by the tracks we leave behind
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From: Ken
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Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] RE: grrrrrrrrr more mis information from the site stewards
I agree it is nice to see that there are rational minds among the Site Stewards. I think the most disturbing comment that Shelly Rasmussen made in the November issue of the Site Stewards newsletter is contained on page 8 & 9. In this section of the newsletter Shelly apparently has formed her own little anti geocaching group that she calls "Stewards Against Geocaching Archaeological Sites" (SAGAS). Her comments and extremely narrow views regarding our hobby appear to be deliberate acts to try and tear down the positive efforts that have been made to resolve conflicts. I think she is a very poor representative for a program that has very honorable intentions and I do not understand her blatant hatred of our hobby. She states in her column that no geocaches have been removed which is not true. Shortly after the meeting with the land managers I archived two of my caches that were near archaeological sites . Shelly fails to mention this fact in the newsletter.
Ken
WhereRWee?
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From: Team Tierra Buena
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Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 8:06 PM
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] RE: grrrrrrrrr more mis information from the site stewards
Jill,
Permit me to add my thanks for your post. It is comforting to know that we are not the objects of universal hostility among the Site Stewards.
Steve
Team Tierra Buena
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From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Jill McCormick
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 5:06 PM
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Subject: [Az-Geocaching] RE: grrrrrrrrr more mis information from the site stewards
I just wanted to put in my two cents on this issue. I have been reading the messages regarding the article in the AZ Watch written by Shelly Rasmussen. I am a site steward and would like to say that she does not represent all site stewards, in fact, I think most site stewards disagree with her views. I do not geocache myself, but hope to in the near future. I am the regional coordinator for the Yuma Region and have an avid geocacher in my group. I also have a few sites with caches near them, but I have never had any trouble with vandalism at these sites. As a site steward our job is to monitor and carry out the wishes of the land managers, not be the police, judge, and jury regarding geocaching. As I understood it from speaking with Mary Estes, you had a productive meeting on September 27th, and had high hopes for future cooperation. I also understand that many landmanagers have no problem with geocaching, nor do they have policies against it. Please do not allow Ms. Rasmussen's comments to undo the good that has been done. I plan to speak to Mary Estes myself and ask her to no longer allow Ms. Rasmussen to publicly speak as if she was speaking for all site stewards. Hopefully this will put an end to this issue. Keep up the good work.
Sincerely,
Jill McCormick
Regional Coordinator Yuma-Quartzsite
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