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Author: listserv@azgeocaching.com
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To: listserv
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] RE:Newbie Geocacher
Ohh geez...I'm not even going to try and have a reasonable
conversation about this.
Suffice to say that you are obviously VERY new to this.
I wish you the best of luck.

Trisha
"Lightning"
Prescott




On Tue, 24 September 2002, "MARK STOUT" wrote:

>
> Okay Trish,
>
> Which definition are we using for "Professional" when

referring to a
> volunteer individual sport/hobby?
>
> 1.    Of, relating to, engaged in, or suitable for a profession:
> lawyers,
> doctors, and other professional people.
> 2.    Conforming to the standards of a profession: professional
> behavior.
> 3.    Engaging in a given activity as a source of livelihood or as a
> career:
> a professional writer.
> 4.    Performed by persons receiving pay: professional football.
> 5.    Having or showing great skill; expert: a professional repair

job.
>
> Because I'm confused as to what a "professional attitude"

is; about
> something that is not sanctioned, endorsed, certified or by any other
> standard: regulated.
> How does a person not living in and around Arizona judge those things
> that
> are good for Arizona? Should we also judge/regulate those things for
> European countries/ Asian countries whose beliefs and cultures are
> different
> from ours yet are apart of the Geocache? I am just asking a

question
> as a
> person who has been exposed to many "types" of cultures

and because of
> this,
> I would no sooner tell others to what they can and/or can not do as I
> would
> tell them how to vote or prey.
> It may seem like an extreme position from your perspective, but than

I
> think
> what you have said establishes the ground rules for some to step in

and
> start regulating this "amateur" hobby/sport, which in turn

goes
> against ones
> own belief and oh yeah something established by the declaration of
> independence [one of those unalienable rights rights things]

"pursuit
> of
> Happiness" which we are giving up when people are subject to

the will
> or
> decisions of others who are not elected officials.
>
>
>
> > I agree, Skydad, for the most part. There are, however, a few

things
> > that need to be taken seriously, for the benefit of ALL in
> geocaching;
> > hence, the upcoming meeting with the "land

supervisors," as an
> example.
> >
> > While geocaching IS a hobby/sport, some more serious than for

others,
> > there are a few issues that need to be addressed. And addressing
> these
> > issues, in my opinion, is best done by those with a

"professional"
> > attitude (which is a positive thing.)
> >
> > That's my 2 cents, since we all have a right to voice an

opinion, I
> > think.
> >
> > Trisha
> > "Lightning"
> > Prescott
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 24 September 2002, "skydad" wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I totally agree with the newbie and their comments on how

negative
> > > this list
> > > serv has gotten over the months. It seems are beloved

sport/hobby
> > has
> > > become a way of life for many people and lost site of the

true
> reason
> > > most
> > > of us started geocaching in the first place. How many

people have
> > > simply
> > > stopped reading the emails without voicing their concerns

as did
> our
> > > newest
> > > members? How many other new people will shy away due to

the
> negative
> > > almost
> > > professional like attitude people are now taking? I think

we all
> > > started to
> > > enjoy the adventure and finding spots we never knew

existed in our
> > > great
> > > state. Along the way we have been lucky to meet some

really great
> > > people.
> > > We can only hope the great effort the people at Snaptek

have put
> > forth
> > > is
> > > not wasted with people taking this all too seriuosly.
> > > The Lunch Club
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