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Author: listserv@azgeocaching.com
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To: listserv
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] what makes a good cache
well, Jason, Jerry....the address says "listserv". I took the name
from that!
Trisha

On Mon, 09 September 2002, Jason Poulter wrote:

>
> it is really called an email list server... but peoples is to lazy

and
> just call it a listserv.... or at least i do anyway...
>
> jason
>
>
> Jerry Nelson wrote:
> > No doubt, the best caches take you to someplace previously

unknown.
> I've
> > been to caches less than four miles from my home that showed me
> places I
> > never would have been aware of, and I've lived in the same
> neighborhood
> > since 1957! I also travel to the Midwest every summer and

usually
> take
> > the same route home. A couple weeks ago I found myself in my

usual
> motel
> > in Chamberlain, South Dakota, where I usually get in with just

enough
> > time to eat, take a shower and fall asleep in front of the TV.

This
> year
> > there happened to be a cache placed at the edge of town

overlooking
> the
> > Missouri River that took me to a fantastic view of sunset from

an
> old,
> > abandoned railroad track. It's a place I'll probably return to

every
> > time I find myself in the area.
> >
> > Geocaching appears to be pretty silly to some people not

involved,
> but it
> > doesn't take long to realize that this is one of main

attractions of
> the
> > game. I've placed some caches where I think people will like

the
> > surroundings and one which certainly falls in the "stats

only"
> category.
> > It's sometimes as much or more fun to place a cache as it is to

find
> one,
> > and it's good to keep reminding ourselves to try to put just a

little
> > thought into those we hide.
> >
> > Here's an off topic question.....not really I guess :o) What

is the
> > proper word for this thing we're communicating on, a listserv,
> listserve
> > or listserver?
> >
> > Jerry
> > Offtrail
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 09 Sep 2002 01:11:31 -0700 "Scott Nicol"
> <>
> > writes:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>>From: "loran wilcox"

<>
> >>>Reply-To:
> >>>To: <>
> >>>Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] what makes a good cache
> >>>Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 23:22:35 -0700
> >>>
> >>>The best caches are those that introduce you to a new

area. Without
> >>
> >>these
> >>
> >>>there are many places in Arizona I would have never seen.
> >>>
> >>>I don't need an ammo box with lots of stuff to make a

cache good.
> >>
> >>The good
> >>
> >>>caches are those that someone has put some thought into.

Hiding it
> >>
> >>in
> >>
> >>>someplace special, finding a new way to hide the cache,

or making a
> >>
> >>game of
> >>
> >>>it with a puzzle or some other twist.
> >>>
> >>>The worst caches are the copycats where a person just

feels the
> >>
> >>need to
> >>
> >>>hide a cache.
> >>>
> >>>I am probably the worst one here in the valley at

playing the
> >>
> >>numbers game
> >>
> >>>but I just have this need to go after any new cache. And

I will go
> >>
> >>after
> >>
> >>>all caches I can. I don't like all the caches I find.

Some are as
> >>
> >>Cody
> >>
> >>>stated nothing more than "it counts as a

find". Some people have
> >>
> >>wondered
> >>
> >>>how I am able to find so many caches. First I have been

out of work
> >>
> >>but
> >>
> >>>beyond that when I can find 14 caches in 4 and 1/2 hours

they are
> >>
> >>just too
> >>
> >>>easy and/or too close together.
> >>>
> >>>As I am leaving the area I will not have much influence

on this
> >>
> >>area but I
> >>
> >>>truly believe that more thought needs to be put into the

placement
> >>
> >>of
> >>
> >>>geocaches. I know there is that need to place a cache

and a simple
> >>
> >>one near
> >>
> >>>home for the first cache is probably acceptable. But

later hides
> >>
> >>need to
> >>
> >>>show more thought.
> >>>
> >>>For the new cachers out there, wait awhile before you

hide a cache
> >>
> >>to learn
> >>
> >>>some of the tricks. This will make the game more

enjoyable for
> >>
> >>everyone.
> >>
> >>>Don't worry about a negative karma number. If you look

closely the
> >>
> >>most
> >>
> >>>driven cachers have the highest negative karma (with

exceptions).
> >>
> >>It
> >>
> >>>doesn't mean a thing. No one expects you to hide a lot

of caches.
> >>
> >>They only
> >>
> >>>want you to hide good caches.
> >>>
> >>>Have I said to much?
> >>>
> >>>Loran (Team Sand Dollar)
> >>
> >
>

------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >>hhhhhhmmmmmmm... what makes a good cache.... "Any cache

that I can
> >>find is a
> >>good cache!" :) LOL LOL LOL :)
> >>
> >>Seriously. I agree with Loran's post totally. No one could

have said
> >>it
> >>better.
> >>
> >>Team RTW is hoping to get out next weekend to hide our very

first
> >>cache (!).
> >>We have 331 cache finds and none hidden. (You want to talk

about
> >>Cache
> >>Karma!?) :O We want our first cache hide to be a special

one. There
> >>are a
> >>few places that we want to hide our first cache and we have

been
> >>waiting
> >>quite a while to place it utilizing my hot air balloon in a

given
> >>location.
> >>However, we have waited this long and the opportunity doesnt

seem to
> >>be
> >>around the corner anytime soon. So, we are going to put it

in
> >>another one of
> >>those few places. The place we want to hide it is a place we

have
> >>looked at
> >>many, many times as we have driven by it and have always

wanted to
> >>hike to
> >>this location. There is something at this location that has

always
> >>interested us. We have never been there so we don't know

what it is.
> >>But, we
> >>want to hike there to find out. We are going to put our

first cache
> >>near
> >>this location. That gives the cache a reason for location.

There is
> >>a bit of
> >>thought needed for us to hide it as well as for those that

will seek
> >>this
> >>cache out. As I am kinda 'old school', it will be a

coordinates
> >>takes you to
> >>the cache (ammo box) kinda cache. However, the views should

be
> >>awsome and
> >>well worth the adventure getting there. Enough said. No more

hints!
> >>:)
> >>
> >>We will also bring along 2 GPS's to allow each to average

out to get
> >>the
> >>best possible coordinates. I will use a Garmin and a

Magellan GPS.
> >>Hopefully
> >>we can provide very accurate coordinates. We will then

confirm the
> >>coordinates using a 7.5' topo as well.
> >>
> >>As far as contents... that is still up for debate. Have a

couple of
> >>themes
> >>that we are thinking about. Still deciding which one! :)
> >>
> >>Anyways, these are just some thoughts in my mind I thought I

would
> >>share
> >>with those newcomers (without many finds) that are thinking

about
> >>hiding a
> >>cache soon. Put some thought into it, know where you are

putting it
> >>in terms
> >>of landowner issues and a seekers ability to access the

cache
> >>location, and
> >>also take special care to provide the best possible

coordinates.
> >>
> >>On another note: Loran. Sure gonna miss ya' bud! Geocaching

will
> >>just not be
> >>the same around here without ya'! Enjoyed the opportunity to

talk
> >>with you
> >>at some of the caches we have been at together as well as

our joint
> >>cache
> >>hike up to Thompson Peak Cache. I guess this is the only way

I will
> >>ever
> >>catch up to you though! :) LOL I am hoping we can get our

first
> >>cache hid
> >>next weekend so just maybe you can get one last cache in

before you
> >>leave!
> >>;) We would really like for you to get the first find on it

too! :)
> >>If not,
> >>we hope you will get back out Arizona way and visit our

cache
> >>sometime.
> >>Enjoy Michigan and I wish you all the best for your new job

and new
> >>life in
> >>Michigan.
> >>
> >>Scott
> >>Team Ropingthewind
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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