[Az-Geocaching] Adopting a cache
Brian Casteel
bcasteel at uccinc.net
Sun May 6 12:29:22 MST 2007
Pfffff. Yeah, the Silly Mountain trip was a fun one, and it had just
rained making it a good afternoon hike. It's always a good time going
out caching with friends, no matter whether you're pounding the
pavement, or getting an emergency call in the middle of the afternoon to
drive 80 miles because someone broke down in the middle of nowhere.
After hours of repair work and driving across the state for parts, we
decide to go caching in the middle of the night, where I promptly placed
my hand on top of a scorpion while climbing up to get the cache, and
later find out that Mojave Rattlers travel in pairs.
I think it would be fun to get a caravan of folks together on my next
return trip and pull off a valley-wide cache machine, pausing briefly
for some fine grilled beef and of course, machaca.
Midnight-to-midnight, anyone? I finally have my own laptop, so I could
pre-plan one hell of a route, and see if I can beat my 93 in a weekend.
Last May, I wanted to go for a full 100, but just ran out of steam
toward midnight, knowing I had to be up at around 3am to get to the
airport for my flight back.
Sooooo, I need to stop talking about this, because I'm going to get
really homesick again. I already am, but I don't need to make it any
worse. :)
Brian
Team A.I.
Regan Smith wrote:
> I see there are no fences to sit on in Montana are there....
>
>
> I still consider the Silly Mountain Hike and Midnight caching stroll a Way
> fun time to spend time with you...not to mention the Prescott run.
>
> Beside aint the internet world wide??
>
> If Montana is not far enough away for the young there is Michigan Minnesota
> Iowa Guam...
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: az-geocaching-bounces at listserv.azgeocaching.com
> [mailto:az-geocaching-bounces at listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Brian
> Casteel
> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 11:59 PM
> To: listserv at azgeocaching.com
> Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Adopting a cache
>
> Since you decided to so rudely go there, let's dance.
>
> I cut my teeth caching August 23, 2001 finding my first cache in the
> Riparian Preserve in Gilbert, AZ. I found my first 911 finds in Arizona
> before I made a choice to move my wife and kids closer to her family in
> Billings, and 2 hours SE in Sheridan, WY. A few of my caches are still
> active in Arizona, and I started the Adopt-A-Highway for Arizona
> Geocachers on the Beeline Highway near Gilbert Road.
>
> Jake started in caching a little less than a year before you and has 78
> fewer finds than you. But his participation in caching doesn't need to
> meet some criteria that you set forth as valid for being an active
> participant. Jake runs geocoin-info.net, a one stop shopping place for
> all things Geocoin knowledge. It is a featured site in a sticky thread
> on the Groundspeak Forums, specifically the fourth thread down in the
> Geocoin Discussions area. He attends quite a few event caches, and
> brings his coin collection along to show others, and spends most of his
> time at those events providing information and guidance on the geocoin
> process. He and I designed the AZ Geocoin, and have designed our own
> personal coin, among other projects not yet public knowledge. There
> is/was a caching team in Canada who has ZERO finds, but plenty of hides,
> so do they not cache enough?
>
> You have 400 finds in over 4 years, so who are you to criticize how much
> someone caches if you're barely pushing one cache per week? Pot? The
> kettle is calling. Perhaps you go for the more difficult caches, so
> more power to you. Despite that, you have no business criticizing how
> often someone goes out and caches. Despite your ranking on the Deep
> Southwest Caching Project, one could argue the case that you hardly
> cache as well, so you might want to choose your words more carefully.
>
> You can say that we're so 'vocal' on the azgc listserv, but lately that
> hasn't been the case for either of us. I haven't posted for a few
> months until recently, and neither has Jake. In fact, that will be the
> extent to which I justify my posting here, since I don't need your
> approval. I made many friends through my years caching in Arizona, and
> I keep in touch with the community this way, at least in some cases.
> Would you chastise Team Sand Dollar if he was to post here as well? How
> about Wyle E, who created some of the most mind numbing puzzle caches
> out there?
>
> Brian
> Team A.I.
>
>
> noshdoo tsoh wrote:
>
>> Why is it that a guy who hardly caches at all, and a guy who lives in
>> Montana are so vocal on an Arizona Geocaching Listserve?
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* az-geocaching-bounces at listserv.azgeocaching.com
>> [mailto:az-geocaching-bounces at listserv.azgeocaching.com] *On Behalf Of
>> *Jake Olson
>> *Sent:* Saturday, May 05, 2007 2:46 PM
>> *To:* listserv at azgeocaching.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [Az-Geocaching] Adopting a cache
>>
>>
>>
>> I coudl see where if a new cache was placed by a new cacher was within
>> the .10 mile area that they would refuse to un-archive it... but
>> because of the container missing???
>>
>>
>>
>> Jake - Team A.I.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/5/07, *Brian Casteel* <bcasteel at uccinc.net
>> <mailto:bcasteel at uccinc.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Funny. Just last month I had a MIA cache un-archived when it was
>> replaced.
>>
>> Brian - Team A.I.
>>
>> AZcachemeister wrote:
>>
>>> HA! Well that's a new 'RULE' I have never heard of! The container
>>> going missing isn't the issue, it's his way of saying he doesn't want
>>> it done, and he is going to throw his weight around to get his way.
>>> I say you should cut it short, hide your new cache and reference the
>>> old one in some way. You can put whatever you want in the 'Hidden By'
>>> box!
>>> Then very clearly state that this is a replacement cache, and that
>>> finders of the previous cache will have their logs deleted. The only
>>> thing preventing anyone from posting multiple logs on any cache is
>>> their conscience and the owner's diligence in deleting them. I would,
>>> however, recommend allowing notes by previous finders, just as should
>>> be allowed for any cache.
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob & Linda Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>> I started with RoadRunner and never got a reply so I went to GC.com
>>>> and Michael stepped in. He is saying something about, "once a
>>>> container is missing the cache can no longer be un-archived" He has
>>>> not told me that any business has contacted GC. He suggested I post
>>>> a new page, using the same name, etc. I don't want to do that, I
>>>> want to keep it all the same, using the original cachers name and
>>>> just appending my name after his. I don't want a new page where
>>>> someone who has found it before can log a new find. It's a great bit
>>>> of history and a bench mark is close by. I've sent him another
>>>> missile and hope it hits the mark.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks folks,
>>>> Bob Smith, Team Petite Elite
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> *From:* AZcachemeister <mailto: azcachemeister at getnet.com
>>>>
>> <mailto:azcachemeister at getnet.com>>
>>
>>>> *To:* listserv at azgeocaching.com
>>>>
>> <mailto:listserv at azgeocaching.com> <mailto: listserv at azgeocaching.com
>> <mailto:listserv at azgeocaching.com>>
>>
>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, May 05, 2007 6:27 AM
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Az-Geocaching] Adopting a cache
>>>>
>>>> A) Caches are un-archived all the time, occasionally under just
>>>> such a scenario.
>>>> B) You are talking to the wrong guy, you need to contact
>>>> RadRunner, our approver.
>>>> C) If all else fails, put a new cache in the same spot. I know
>>>> it's nice to keep the old history, so maybe you will have to call
>>>> your cache 'A tribute to 'All Aboard' Gone'.
>>>> D) After reviewing the cache page, it appears there is something
>>>> more to the story. Perhaps a local business owner has contacted
>>>> Groundspeak about the cache?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>>> Steven Stringham wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The reality is that the methods are there to dearchive and then
>>>>>
>> adopt.
>>
>>>>> So, the question is, what is the reasons that Michael is
>>>>>
>> stepping in.
>>
>>>>> This is odd for the Community relations folks to do this.
>>>>> * Has someone in the cache area requested that the cache die?
>>>>> * Is there a change in GC policy? (Older caches must die,
>>>>>
>> whatever).
>>
>>>>> * Is he just a pain in the .... and wants to give you grief.
>>>>>
>>>>> Contact Michael directly?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob & Linda Smith wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> OK everyone, I need to find out why an archived cache can't be
>>>>>> un-archived so the adopt program can be used. I am trying to
>>>>>>
>> get a
>>
>>>>>> cache back on line that the original owner can no longer
>>>>>>
>> maintain. I
>>
>>>>>> was told by Michael LaPaglia at GC.com that once a cache is
>>>>>>
>> archived it
>>
>>>>>> can not be un-archived. I am pretty sure that I read
>>>>>>
>> somewhere that a
>>
>>>>>> cache could be un-archived and brought back on line. If you
>>>>>>
>> want to
>>
>>>>>> look at the cache on line the way point is GCJWPV
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob and Linda Smith, Team Petite Elite
>>>>>> Prescott, AZ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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